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Obama has been preaching "change" long before the DNC picked him to be the democrat's nominee. Hmmmm...always talking about change. I now have a clearer idea of what he means by change...it's a "Redistributive Change" he speaks of. Listen closely to this 2001 Chicago Public Radio interview. Barack Obama is talking about radically reinterpreting the US Constitution so that government can redistribute the wealth. Higher taxes and bigger government. Is this the direction America's citizens want this country to go??
Listen closely to the chosen one: YouTube - Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered Sounds like Obama's chickens have come home to roost. BTW, if you don't want to listen to him say it, then go ahead and read it: If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed peoples so that I would now have the right to vote, I would now be able to sit at a lunch counter and order, and as long as I could pay for it, I'd be OK. But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and the more basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent, as radical as, I think, people try to characterize the Warren court, it wasn't that radical; it didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.... One of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, I think, there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways, we still suffer from that. You can craft theoretical justification for it legally, and any three of us sitting here could come up with a rationale for bringing about economic change through the courts.Yes, his chickens have come home to roost...
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I heard it and First I think its been chopped.
Secondly even chopped it not something that scares me. Improving the lives of all the people and not just the wealthy sounds like a good idea. Im not saying and neither do I think is he saying that the rich will end up poor it just means that the system which is biased and racist and created by generations of white men should be changed so that all peoples of this nation have a chance to succeed. Don't worry chicken little he doesn't want to take all the white mans money and give it to everyone he just wants laws that work for all Americans not just republican white people.
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Of course you think it's chopped. It is the easiest way to minimize what he has said about modifying the constitution. He was VERY CLEAR in what he said in the interview, and his words are consistent with what he said to Joe the Plumber. That is a fact. Personally, I prefer not giving my hard earned money to those that milk the system. Then again, I don't have socialist leanings. This is not the change this country needs. But I guess a way to maneuver around Obama's socialist comments in the interview is to bring up the race card, which you have done. Predictable...
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Better a "Socialist" then another greedy money grubber who thinks the way to help America is to ignore its people and cow tow to the wealthiest who often aren't even American.
Facts are Facts, the economy does better under democrats and we need for the economy to do better. The give away to the rich is over for a while so you better get used to the idea. Becuase your little attempt to paint Obama as the big bad socialist is a little to little a little to late.
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Really how so and how did all the media and sound engineers out there miss it? Where do you think this happened and if it has been chopped how were his fluid answers and elaboration “chopped” together?
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Phew, besides the obvious issues with that last comment, is not calling a fellow poster here at PF a name to be frowned upon? In most debate circles the stooping to personal insults in the first recognizable sign of intellectual bankruptcy. Nes pa?
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thanks for the critique but I really am not interested in what you think of my posts.
IF you want to add to the topic then by all means do. Chicken little is more of a metaphor then it is name calling. You know the sky is falling the sky is falling but then maybe you dont know. Either way its not really that important to me. If you support money grubbing rich white men that have only there own interests at heart that's your business but personally unless you are rich then I can't see why you would support a party that does not have your interests in mind when they run the nation as is easily seen by the last 8 years. I can pull up all kinds of graphs and figures to show that republicans are the worst thing to have in charge when the economy needs help. Fear mongering about wealth redistribution is at best childish and so you'll just have to forgive me if I think those that believe in it must be children.
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"In most debate circles the stooping to personal insults in the first recognizable sign of intellectual bankruptcy. Nes pa?" I know how hard it is for you more right wing types to understand that insults are a two way street. Meaning that you throw them out like candy but you only notice the ones thrown at you. Quote:
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Buttress my comments, Im sorry was there not enough butt in my comments for you. You can fling mud well, did you go to the KKKarl Rove school of doing anything you want then acting like a victim when someone points out your childish ways.
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So you can’t detail how the interview was “chopped” and think you have offered up some truly meaningful "critique" free material here eh? ![]() Quote:
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Yeah, I’m such a KKKarl Rove hard core righty! Oh that hurts so much. But you are right about one thing at least. I can’t find much of substance in anything you have said in this thread. Clearly neither can you. Chuckle.
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