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Old 10-27-2008, 11:42 PM
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I know how hard it is for you more right wing types to understand that insults are a two way street. Meaning that you throw them out like candy but you only notice the ones thrown at you.
It looks like you started the insults in post #2. You also started using the race card in post #2. Rather than discuss the topic, you resort to tactics that are typical of those that want to divert from the topic. Obama showed us all his socialist mindset, can't you see that?

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I mean other then talking down to me I have seen little in the way of actual discourse on the topic.
Playing the victim here doesn't play too well. If you would contribute respectful comments then maybe there could be actual discourse on the topic.

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Really you went to moca men. Wow that was fast. I didnt expect you racism to show for a least a couple posts.
And you showed your racism in post #2: "Take all the white mans money" and "created by generations of white men". Nice way to start a discussion...I mean divert from a discussion.

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Buttress my comments, Im sorry was there not enough butt in my comments for you. You can fling mud well, did you go to the KKKarl Rove school of doing anything you want then acting like a victim when someone points out your childish ways.
More racist comments?? Enough already...Stick to the topic bud.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:04 AM
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Why is redistributing the wealth such a big problem?
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Why is redistributing the wealth such a big problem?
Because it is theft. It is the use of force on one person to take their property and give it to another. It is intellectual lethargy. You can't convince people to be charitible, so you force them to give at the point of a gun.
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:31 AM
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It looks like you started the insults in post #2. You also started using the race card in post #2. Rather than discuss the topic, you resort to tactics that are typical of those that want to divert from the topic. Obama showed us all his socialist mindset, can't you see that?
Yes I called the OP chicken little becuase his post was a sky is falling type of post and it was related to the topic and the form of political discourse it represents. You see what you want and you paint it with your own brush but in the end you are just crying wolf to put fear into people so they will vote the way you want.


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Playing the victim here doesn't play too well. If you would contribute respectful comments then maybe there could be actual discourse on the topic.
Can't you come up with your own argument. The sky is falling oh no.

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And you showed your racism in post #2: "Take all the white mans money" and "created by generations of white men". Nice way to start a discussion...I mean divert from a discussion.

More racist comments?? Enough already...Stick to the topic bud.
I am a white guy and I know our history well. We don't get to play the racism card. The oppressor does not get to act like the oppressed.
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Because it is the kind of thing the Joker would do?
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I am a white guy and I know our history well. We don't get to play the racism card. The oppressor does not get to act like the oppressed.
Who do mean when you say "white"? My family immigrated to this country in the 1920's, lived in Northern Delaware, worked in the Philly Navy Yard (and subsequently fought in several of this country's wars as sailors). My family never owned slaves, never denied service to a minority, hell my grandfather worked alongside blacks in the 50's when he worked for Sun Oil. So how exactly are you going to indict an entire group of people whose sole unfying trait is something beyond their control, for something in which only a fraction of said people were involved? That my friend is the type of ignorant, uneducated, jerk-off, "**** logic" statement that keeps racism alive.

Some blacks carry guns and deal drugs. Using your logic, they're all gun-toting crack dealers.

Some mexicans drive low-riders and call each other "esee". Using your logic, ALL mexicans drive ****ty cars and bastardize speech.

See where I'm going with this?

Go look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you're really intellectually developed enough to be a member of this forum. Clearly you're of the impression that eugenics and stereotyping are both considered valid scientific studies, and a sound basis for an argument. Jesus man, where the **** do you get off calling an entire group of people ANYTHING? Who the **** do you think you are?
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Who do mean when you say "white"? My family immigrated to this country in the 1920's, lived in Northern Delaware, worked in the Philly Navy Yard (and subsequently fought in several of this country's wars as sailors). My family never owned slaves, never denied service to a minority, hell my grandfather worked alongside blacks in the 50's when he worked for Sun Oil. So how exactly are you going to indict an entire group of people whose sole unfying trait is something beyond their control, for something in which only a fraction of said people were involved? That my friend is the type of ignorant, uneducated, jerk-off, "**** logic" statement that keeps racism alive.

Some blacks carry guns and deal drugs. Using your logic, they're all gun-toting crack dealers.

Some mexicans drive low-riders and call each other "esee". Using your logic, ALL mexicans drive ****ty cars and bastardize speech.

See where I'm going with this?

Go look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if you're really intellectually developed enough to be a member of this forum. Clearly you're of the impression that eugenics and stereotyping are both considered valid scientific studies, and a sound basis for an argument. Jesus man, where the **** do you get off calling an entire group of people ANYTHING? Who the **** do you think you are?
IMO this pettyfogger suffers from true white guilt.
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I think you two are just the same old dinosaurs that created the problems to begin with.
I get it, its always the same ending, you you you.
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I think you two are just the same old dinosaurs that created the problems to begin with.
I get it, its always the same ending, you you you.
OK let us see if you can walk your talk. Your "first" comment was my "first" question! Which so unnerved you that you have spent every moment since running from it. None too dexterously but with great futility trying to obfuscate and dodge from the same; with the alacrity of a true stereotypical internet hack. Or did you think you had "contributed" something to this thread you whined that all but you otherwise failed to "contribute" to? In a deeply intellectual way? Oh do tell Proust Scholar!

So in the interest of recovering ground you found difficult to surmount, yet which afforded you the freedom to bray, we shall go back over it all for you. Roomper Room style ala your scintillating commentary. Which you felt so confident in making that you can't actually (to use a phrase clearly alien to you) buttress.
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I heard it and First I think its been chopped.
How so deep thinker? I mean surely you had something approaching a myopic filament or silky thread that lead somewhere other than stereotypical keeping the stereotypical alive and well in 2008? Oh please share with the huddled masses; a mere crumb of your generational knowledge and truly introspective ruminations? Please grant succor to those cursed in the shadow of your omnipresence! Bring your "truth" to those not cursed by the burden of "critiques" which their adamant egos can't discern are but mere layman's common sense!
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Wow all those words and you still haven't said anything.

Lots of sophistry but no substance.

Again I say this form of childish politics does nothing but detract from the important business of fixing the problems the right has caused over the last 30 years.

Buckle up children your dreams are about to be washed away like all nightmares the republicans are about to be banished to history.
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