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Old 10-22-2008, 12:51 AM
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A weak president will invite attacks on US interests domestically and overseas. Vote Obama=weaken the nation.
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:13 AM
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A weak president will invite attacks on US interests domestically and overseas. Vote Obama=weaken the nation.
A vote for McCain = a vote for corporatism = fascism.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:21 AM
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A weak president will invite attacks on US interests domestically and overseas. Vote Obama=weaken the nation.
a Jingoistic war monger will invite more attacks and further weaken what Bush has started.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:32 PM
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Ah but we had a hugely higher favorable rating when Clinton was in office. He worked with our allies. Instead of ordering them around and acting like a angrey hurt child and lashing out.
But that rating wasn't really any higher than it was under Bush, Sr., Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ, JFK, Eisenhower, Truman, FDR, and going back to at least WWI.

Keep in mind, of course, that 9/11 didn't happen because of our higher favorable rating but because of nearly 50 years of interfering in the internal affairs of Middle Eastern nations.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:33 PM
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A vote for McCain = a vote for corporatism = fascism.
A vote for either McCain or Obama is a vote for corporatism/fascism.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:36 PM
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a Jingoistic war monger will invite more attacks and further weaken what Bush has started.
But 9/11 didn't happen because of what Bush did - he hadn't had time to really do much of anything - 9/11 was being planned since right after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 under Clinton.

You're not making an argument here in favor of Messiah Obama, since he's just as much a big government nanny stater interventionist as McCain, but for libertarian non-interventionism.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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a Jingoistic war monger will invite more attacks and further weaken what Bush has started.
I guess Biden spoke out of his bottom orifice then.
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A vote for either McCain or Obama is a vote for corporatism/fascism.
That makes you sound like quite the socialist, Chan.

Chosen--nations don't "strengthen" themselves by running around with their dicks in hand, shouting about how great they are, and telling everyone to do what they want. Nor do they strengthen themselves by attacking nations that posed no threat to them under false premises. Further, they don't strengthen themselves by reducing civil liberties in the name of a more "secure" society, or by deregulating their economies so that they periodically boom and crash. They don't strengthen themselves with immediate spending freezes or metaphorical hatchets (or scalpels, either). Just a hint.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:30 PM
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That makes you sound like quite the socialist, Chan.
Not at all. Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same big government nanny stater interventionist coin. I agree with George Washington (Do they still teach you kids about him?) who said the United States should not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

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Chosen--nations don't "strengthen" themselves by running around with their dicks in hand, shouting about how great they are, and telling everyone to do what they want. Nor do they strengthen themselves by attacking nations that posed no threat to them under false premises. Further, they don't strengthen themselves by reducing civil liberties in the name of a more "secure" society, or by deregulating their economies so that they periodically boom and crash. They don't strengthen themselves with immediate spending freezes or metaphorical hatchets (or scalpels, either). Just a hint.
Nor do they strengthen themselves by sticking their noses into other countries' internal affairs or by kow towing to the opinions of other countries.
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