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The only vote that doesn't count is a vote for the tax-funded constitutional usurpers. Fire them all.
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I had similar thoughts when I read this, hehe.
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I think you guys need to stop blaming the world because your party doesn't garner enough votes to be seen as anything but fringe.
Its no ones fault but your own if you join a group that doesn't get much respect.
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Gag me with a pitchfork.
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But I will say that a vote for 3rd parties is never, ever wasted. Obviously, Barr will not win in 2008, however, if he can get enough votes, he can draw attention to his party (as can any 3rd party candidate) to get more votes for future elections, and more local elections (like state congressfolk).
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And spending programs on the rich and wealthy are just a different kind of socialism. Government economic intervention favoring the wealthy goes back to the trickle down theory, but still taxes and gives with the "good of the many" at heart. The Neo-Cons and Democrats are two modern forms of socialism. They both use economic classes as framework for their interventionist economic policy. Last edited by SonOfCarolina88 : 10-22-2008 at 05:42 AM. |
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What I try to explain to everyone is "Liberatarian" can't be wrong. It IS the US Constitution. Liberatarianism only applies to a federal government that is limited in its nature to value HOME RULE.
We're the UNITED STATES. Not the Republic of America. States are soveriegn and need to be respected as such. The federal government serves to pool funding for national defense, build interestates and any other project pertaining to congress' power to regulate interstate commerce, provide support for the state as needed, and whatever else provides federal structure without overpowering the will of the states. The point of that being... as a South Carolinian, I don't want an involved government that being county, state, or federal. The majority of people in my state probably don't, so a less involved government is in the interest of the people given their choosing of it. On the same note Californians, for example, may overwhelmingly support government intervention, socialization of just about everything possible, and other things I may disagree with. Under the Constitution, those Californians could have a state government that through taxes bought healthcare, welfare, college education, among other things at no cost to taxpayers. I personally, wanting to vomit at the very thought of that, would be very happy in my liberal, small-government South Carolina. The Constitution does not intend for a Federal Government to regulate things for the states. The differences in states and greater opinion in them goes back to our time as colonies. Our independance was signed by legislatures in the 13 colonies. We hold our soveriegnty as a state, NOT as a country. And thus our Country was created with the loose, limited government as to allow states to flourish as they chose, without the disturbance of a tyrranical federal government, like that of the Empire we were fighting. "No taxation without representation" is what we said. I'm being taxed with only one representative. Ron Paul. He is the only man speaking up for ME and the Constitution. BOTTOM LINE: If the state can do something, than it MUST do it. Why? Because it offers home rule. You can have whatever kind of government you and the rest of your state want, without imposing that opinion on anyone else. To me it's only disrespectful to tell someone what's best for them. You can know what's best for them, but you have to respect them to make the choice, the same way they respected you to make that choice. The constitution is meant to offer FREEDOM. Freedom means choices. Small federal government offers choices. Obama and McCain do not. Any kind of federal government intervention is harmful, whether it makes concessions for the rich, or for the poor. The government can't play favorites. They have no right, and they have no authority. Last edited by SonOfCarolina88 : 10-22-2008 at 05:24 AM. |
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