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Not everything one reads (or hears on TV) is necessarily true. For instance, the story about someone at a McCain rally (allegedly) yelling, "Kill him!" with regard to Barack Obama, is apparently false. Here is a snippet from a Scranton (Pennsylvania) Times-Leader update on the matter:

"The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled 'kill him' when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

"The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted 'kill him.'

"News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

"Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

"'I was baffled,' he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune."

And here is a link to the entire story: Page Not Found | Wilkes-Barre PA news, sports, schools, entertainment, and shopping | timesleader.com - The Times Leader ... nded_.html

A story carried on FNC today suggested that someone at a McCain rally may have instead uttered the words, "Tell him!"--although the subject of those words remains unclear, if that is the case.
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Or that race war McVeigh tried to start. I somehow doubt he was a dem, and he damn sure had friends. I suspect they are crawling out of their burrows.
Or that domestic war Bill Ayers and his weathermen tried to start. I somehow doubt he was a rep, and he damn sure had friends, specifically one called Barack Obama. I suspect they he is avoiding Ayers like the plague.
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Or that domestic war Bill Ayers and his weathermen tried to start. I somehow doubt he was a rep, and he damn sure had friends, specifically one called Barack Obama. I suspect they he is avoiding Ayers like the plague.
Yes, well - I'm sure repubs will run with that weak association because they nothing positive to run on. What good has ahppened in the past eight years - are you ready for eight more just like it? Does shouting - "kill him", "terrorist" and other hate filled epithets, republicans are just expressing their concern over the fact that Obama sat on a School Board of Directors, along with several top republicans, that had Ayers as a member.

Have you any concern about them? Were they all blind and deaf, or in on the terrorist plotting?
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GOP Rep.: Obama, Congress may be 'anti-American'
David Edwards and Andrew McLemore
Published: Friday October 17, 2008


Sen. Barack Obama and certain members of Congress should be investigated by the media for "being anti-American," Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) said.

The Democratic presidential candidate's ties to 1960s radical Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright cast suspicion on his claims to American values, Bachmann said in an interview with MSNBC's Chris Matthews. She also connected "leftists" and "liberals" to her allegations about Obama's character.

"The news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look... at the views of the people in Congress and find out, 'Are they pro-America or anti-America?'" Bachmann said. "I think people would love to see an expose like that."

Obama and his campaign have condemned the radical activities of Ayers, carried out when Obama was 8 years old, the Associated Press reported.

There is no evidence they were close friends or that Obama received advice from Ayers on policy.


When asked by Matthews why Obama's connection to Ayers is important, Bachmann said it "calls into question what Barack Obama's true beliefs" are, and called him the "most liberal senator in the United States Senate."

Matthews asked Bachmann what the connection is between liberals and anti-Americanism. This was her response:

"Anti-American is the point. The liberals that are Jeremiah Wright and that are Bill Ayers are over-the-top anti-American and that's the question that Americans have."

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said Obama "pals around with terrorists" in a clip shown by Matthews. Bachmann agreed with Palin's statement.

Palin slammed Obama in a Friday speech for his connections to the controversial Rev. Wright, who was Obama's pastor for 20 years.

Bachmann's statements stoked anger in Katrina Vanden Heuvel, editor of The Nation, who said the congresswoman represented a kind of "American fascism."

"I fear for my country," Vanden Heuvel said. "I think what we just heard was a congresswoman channeling Joe McCarthy, channeling a politics of fear and loathing and demonization and division and distraction."



This video is from MSNBC's Hardball, broadcast October 17, 2008.
The Raw Story | GOP Rep.: Obama, Congress may be 'anti-American'
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