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Old 10-09-2008, 08:42 PM
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3rd Parties Get No Respect
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Hello Freedomphiles! Check out my new Nolan Chart exclusive about the double-standard for ballot access. Excerpt:

So, Bob Barr filed a writ of mandamus with the Supreme Court of Texas, trying to force the SoS to follow the law and remove the Democratic and Republican candidates from the ballot.

The Supreme Court simply denied the writ, with no explanation - but no explanation was needed. This is a two-party duopoly, and while third parties have to jump through hoops to get on a ballot, the elites are there somehow by birthright.

So, fast forward to today, when reason magazine's Radley Balko reports that Bob Barr lost his lawsuit to be included on the Louisiana ballot, after having missed the deadline.

There was a slight difference, though. While McCain and Obama missed the deadline because of elitist indifference, Bob Barr missed the deadline in Louisiana because of a hurricaine.


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Wow... what a load of crap. If people don't see a problem with this there is something wrong with them.
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Well that sucks for Barr. But in reality, if you look at the numbers of support, this race is between McCain and Obama and so regardless of deadlines, they should be on every ballot. While I agree that Barr should be on LA ballot, McCain and Obama should not be excluded from Texas, since they are the big two and the people (as seeing as there are a lot of supporters down in Texas for McCain) have the right to partisipate in this democracy and that should be above the law.
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Well that sucks for Barr. But in reality, if you look at the numbers of support, this race is between McCain and Obama and so regardless of deadlines, they should be on every ballot. While I agree that Barr should be on LA ballot, McCain and Obama should not be excluded from Texas, since they are the big two and the people (as seeing as there are a lot of supporters down in Texas for McCain) have the right to partisipate in this democracy and that should be above the law.
Not if they don't follow the law. Either they follow the law or they get the repercussions. If we are going to just wave people threw when they don't they we should wave Barr through as well. It is unjust and it shows there is a huge problem in the system.
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Well that sucks for Barr. But in reality, if you look at the numbers of support, this race is between McCain and Obama and so regardless of deadlines, they should be on every ballot. While I agree that Barr should be on LA ballot, McCain and Obama should not be excluded from Texas, since they are the big two and the people (as seeing as there are a lot of supporters down in Texas for McCain) have the right to partisipate in this democracy and that should be above the law.
So you are saying that the Democrats and Republicans shouldn't have to obey the same law as other parties. :nono: In order to be polite, I'll just say I'm speechless.
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Not if they don't follow the law. Either they follow the law or they get the repercussions. If we are going to just wave people threw when they don't they we should wave Barr through as well. It is unjust and it shows there is a huge problem in the system.
Barr should be waved through. There should be no laws restricting the democratic process at all. There should be no hoops to jump through.
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So you are saying that the Democrats and Republicans shouldn't have to obey the same law as other parties. :nono: In order to be polite, I'll just say I'm speechless.
Hey, did you see this article made Rational Review's Commentary List for today? I think that's a first for me.
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If Barr was on the ballet he would risk a derailment of the McCain campaign, and we cannot have that.

Not only do I think that any serious candiate should be on the ballet in every state but also that any one that gets >1% voter support should be able to participate in debates.
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Well that sucks for Barr. But in reality, if you look at the numbers of support, this race is between McCain and Obama and so regardless of deadlines, they should be on every ballot.
So THE LAW does not apply to Democrats and Republicans? Nice.....great way to support tyranny.

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While I agree that Barr should be on LA ballot, McCain and Obama should not be excluded from Texas, since they are the big two and the people (as seeing as there are a lot of supporters down in Texas for McCain) have the right to partisipate in this democracy and that should be above the law.
So THE LAW is only for "those people" and need not be applied to the tax-subsidized party candidates? Right. Let's just throw "equality under the law" out the window.....cuz your a republican or a democrat.

Here's an idea...why not just outlaw 'third' parties altogether and require membership into one of the tax-subsidized parties? Wait.....haven't we seen that in history before? Yeah CCCP did that at one time.

Voters in Texas have the right to "participate" and can "vote" for the remaining four candidates that obeyed the law.

When the government routinely violates the law, it has no moral authority to enforce the law. The government becomes despotic and illegitimate.
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