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Old 10-02-2008, 02:48 AM
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Or you might try any of these.

Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free (John 8:32): Your cranky old fart hasn't got a prayer...and Sarah's moose is cooked.
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Nationwide, Obama leads 47% to 41%.
or did you miss that? And the only one that pointed to a 10 point lead was the Daily KO (though they did it under another name because of their past bais). There is a reason it isn't considered a major poll, because it tests a disproportionate set of voters (which it admits in it's stats) and it has an error of 5%, which is extremely large for national polls.

The real polls show that Obama has a 5-6 point lead. Not 10, sorry that your bais is continuing to blind you.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:41 AM
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You do realize that it says or did you miss that? And the only one that pointed to a 10 point lead was the Daily KO (though they did it under another name because of their past bais). There is a reason it isn't considered a major poll, because it tests a disproportionate set of voters (which it admits in it's stats) and it has an error of 5%, which is extremely large for national polls.

The real polls show that Obama has a 5-6 point lead. Not 10, sorry that your bais is continuing to blind you.
How many Democrats were needed to be polled (compared to Republicans) to obtain the results that they wanted? Typically, 15% more Democrats (than Republicans) are needed... e.g.,, the polls are skewed to get the results that they want.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:52 PM
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You do realize that it says or did you miss that? And the only one that pointed to a 10 point lead was the Daily KO (though they did it under another name because of their past bais). There is a reason it isn't considered a major poll, because it tests a disproportionate set of voters (which it admits in it's stats) and it has an error of 5%, which is extremely large for national polls.

The real polls show that Obama has a 5-6 point lead. Not 10, sorry that your bais is continuing to blind you.
Tell you what. If you don't worry about my bias so much, I'll forego pointing out that you referenced cooked numbers at Real Clear Politics...okay? I mean if the right has to lie to make their point, then they DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE, do they??
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Tell you what. If you don't worry about my bias so much, I'll forego pointing out that you referenced cooked numbers at Real Clear Politics...okay? I mean if the right has to lie to make their point, then they DON'T REALLY HAVE ONE, do they??
Try reading your articles, I didn't point to cooked numbers at RCP, the cooked numbers were based on individual state polls, not the national poll, which I pointed to.

"...considerably more favorable numbers for John McCain than other contemporaneous polls of those states. In each of those states -- North Carolina, Virginia, Nevada."

However, if you want, let's look at what 538, the site that you just now suggested, has for the national polls, hey look it's Obama by 6, just like I already said. So, is there anything else that you want to try to say?
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Try reading your articles, I didn't point to cooked numbers at RCP, the cooked numbers were based on individual state polls, not the national poll, which I pointed to.

"...considerably more favorable numbers for John McCain than other contemporaneous polls of those states. In each of those states -- North Carolina, Virginia, Nevada."

However, if you want, let's look at what 538, the site that you just now suggested, has for the national polls, hey look it's Obama by 6, just like I already said. So, is there anything else that you want to try to say?
Even that 6 points is based on polls that are skewed.. e.g., the number of Democrats participating is greater than the number of Republicans.

The polls mean nothing and are being used (as they are every election year) simply to make news and promote a politicial ideology..
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yes, the left is quite scared of Palin.. shaking in their boots about this..

If she was of no consequence.. there would not be all of this dispair and angst on the left..

Funny to watch the left shake in fear. even that Marxist idiot on HBO was slurring his speech in fear.
Palin is a heartbeat away from the presidency and she is extremely unqualified, no matter how the right spins it. In her limited less than 2 years as gov. and she is already being investigated for the firings of public officials for political and personal reasons, the same type of firings that caused Gonzales to resign. She holds radical religious views that the majority of American's do not hold, like radically pro-life stance even in cases of incest and rape. As well as young Earth creation theory which places the Earth's age at 6,000 years and that dinosaures are all herbavoirs that coexhisted with man in the Garden of Eden. These wholly unscientific beliefs are refuted by just about every field of science known to man including linguistics which places written languages older than 6,000 years. So how can you possibly think that an inexperienced ideolouge who has never been outside of the US and barely made it outside of her state's boarders, who has limited political experience but plenty in pork barrel projects, ear marks, appeasing special interests as well as possible corruption, who holds radical views that are in conflict with every scientific institution known to man, should be a heartbeat away from missile command codes and leading this entire country?
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Palin is a heartbeat away from the presidency and she is extremely unqualified, no matter how the right spins it. In her limited less than 2 years as gov. and she is already being investigated for the firings of public officials for political and personal reasons, the same type of firings that caused Gonzales to resign. She holds radical religious views that the majority of American's do not hold, like radically pro-life stance even in cases of incest and rape. As well as young Earth creation theory which places the Earth's age at 6,000 years and that dinosaures are all herbavoirs that coexhisted with man in the Garden of Eden. These wholly unscientific beliefs are refuted by just about every field of science known to man including linguistics which places written languages older than 6,000 years. So how can you possibly think that an inexperienced ideolouge who has never been outside of the US and barely made it outside of her state's boarders, who has limited political experience but plenty in pork barrel projects, ear marks, appeasing special interests as well as possible corruption, who holds radical views that are in conflict with every scientific institution known to man, should be a heartbeat away from missile command codes and leading this entire country?

So? If you really meant what you say, you would have a similar concern about Obama..

and Where in the Constitution does it say that the President dictates what is taught in schools?

Your argument falls flat on its face.. Obama is even less qualified than Palin.
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wow - you guys are vicious. i must be the only one who actually LIKES her - better than all the others combined. as for experience, um, governor, chief executive officer of a country. a senator - for 3 years - who hasnt finished his first term?

palin is more qualified than obama. if palin isnt fit to be president, then obama is certainly not fit
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wow - you guys are vicious. i must be the only one who actually LIKES her - better than all the others combined. as for experience, um, governor, chief executive officer of a country. a senator - for 3 years - who hasnt finished his first term?

palin is more qualified than obama. if palin isnt fit to be president, then obama is certainly not fit
Correct.. if palin is not fit.. then Obama is not either.
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I like Palin--as a MILF. But for actually running a country, no thanks.
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