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Old 09-26-2008, 04:01 PM
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And they can't do that without presidential and gubernatorial votes (10% minimum). Therefore, and yet again, your premise is incorrect and does nothing but perpetuate tyranny of the political ruling elite.
Matters not.. what matters is the party's credibility. and whether it has demonstrated an ability to govern.

Liberatarians and communists are in the same boat.... they have no experience.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:00 PM
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Matters not.. what matters is the party's credibility. and whether it has demonstrated an ability to govern.
Can't be accomplished unless they can be election. Ballot access is required.

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Liberatarians and communists are in the same boat.... they have no experience.
Actually, libertarians have much experience. However, we must waste valuable resources retaining ballot access year after year. As a member of my state executive committee, I can attest that those costs are in excess of 50k annually. You are discussing a topic in which you are ill-informed though no fault of your own. If you desire to learn, I'll be willing to teach.

That said....and as I have previously stated....in order for 'the party' to become 'credible' or what I would state as 'competitive' the party must retain ballot access and the party must acquire representation at the STATE level. Not Congress....not the President. However, those offices hold a key to ballot access so you must run them anyway.

'Party' funds are not utilized in these races (per our bylaws). Therefore, they are not a 'waste of time, money or effort' as they retain our ballot access.

Now....if you REALLY want to discuss how to make the party more 'competitive' let me know. I am available. However, your hand-wringing fear of the Obama 'marxist' factor is illogical and self destructive. Desiring one form of despotism over another is counter productive.

I KNOW you took a principled stance. I KNOW you have it within you. I KNOW you can see the destruction of the republic before your eyes. Trading 'marxism' for 'fascism' is not the answer.

In the end you must decide if you will be part of the solution, or part of the problem. That choice is ultimately yours to make. I can only hope you make the right decision.
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:01 AM
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Can't be accomplished unless they can be election. Ballot access is required.



Actually, libertarians have much experience. However, we must waste valuable resources retaining ballot access year after year. As a member of my state executive committee, I can attest that those costs are in excess of 50k annually. You are discussing a topic in which you are ill-informed though no fault of your own. If you desire to learn, I'll be willing to teach.

That said....and as I have previously stated....in order for 'the party' to become 'credible' or what I would state as 'competitive' the party must retain ballot access and the party must acquire representation at the STATE level. Not Congress....not the President. However, those offices hold a key to ballot access so you must run them anyway.

'Party' funds are not utilized in these races (per our bylaws). Therefore, they are not a 'waste of time, money or effort' as they retain our ballot access.

Now....if you REALLY want to discuss how to make the party more 'competitive' let me know. I am available. However, your hand-wringing fear of the Obama 'marxist' factor is illogical and self destructive. Desiring one form of despotism over another is counter productive.

I KNOW you took a principled stance. I KNOW you have it within you. I KNOW you can see the destruction of the republic before your eyes. Trading 'marxism' for 'fascism' is not the answer.

In the end you must decide if you will be part of the solution, or part of the problem. That choice is ultimately yours to make. I can only hope you make the right decision.

whose fault is that? Don't blame that on me. I have given you the method which that party needs to take power. and all you have done is given me excuses and blamed me for telling you what you should already know.

It is not my fault that the Liberatarian party is a second rate party.. that is the the fault of its leadership who apparently thinks (stupidly) that by running for President every 4 years, it can become a mainstream party.


Don't blame me.. Second stringers never get elected.
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She better put on the brakes, it seems a majority of Americans isn't buying into her arguments.
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:28 AM
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She better put on the brakes, it seems a majority of Americans isn't buying into her arguments.
Really? That is why she is attracting tens of thousands of people at every one of her appearances.. even in NY City.

Living the lie must be a treat!!
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