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Gene, you have no idea what you unleash, my man.... Property rights have been a cornerstone of civilization for centuries.
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I admit, it's hard for me to get my mind around a different system. "Imagine no posessions, I wonder if you can."
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Imagine trying to keep track of everything that you have to "pay rent" for. Try to balance that budget.
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People who own land are at an advantage to those who don't, and unlike one's labor, earth is not an inherit feature of one's ability or person. Land value should be assessed and then turned over into a flat tax. The revenue from this money should go directly towards every individual; the only people who are at any "advantage" don't own land - but as I said, that's already a disadvantage so it negates any differences.
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I own a few acres not far from Austin, and although it has literally no development at all except a fence around it (built by neighboring land owners) I still pay taxes. Granted these will go up if I ever develop that land in any way... but, since I am paying something back to 'society', is this not compatible with this thery of 'geolibertarianism'? is private land ownership really such a bad thing?
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Geoists believe in only one tax: the LVT.
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The idea in itself is geoist. Geolibertarians are a branch of the geoist movement who believe in limited government in all other matters. All geoists, however (as far as I'm aware of), believe the LVT to be the only fair method of taxation. Now, since geolibertarians are identified as left-libertarians, they also are against the State protection around corporations, subsidies, intellectual property, and all other unethical systems. It's a sham to oppose corporate taxation and not corporate protectionism. Private land ownership is not bad at all; however, you have to legitimize ownership. Is that so much to ask? In the past lands were acquired through brute force, particularly in Northern Europe and the Americans.
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He is essentually saying a flat land tax (not taxing more for prime value land over cheap waste land).
That is a bad idea, as the wealthy are going to gooble up the prime land, and the poor are going to be stuck with either crappy land or no land, but those with crappy land are going to be paying the same taxes for it as those with prime land, so that just increases the ecnomic divide between rich and poor. That also makes it so farmers are going to end up paying a lot of money in taxes, causeing food to go way up.
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Actually, that's not true. Property-less people will not be paying this tax - which inevitably means that, when the returns come in, they're getting more money. LVT doesn't clump all different land into one olive branch. It's an assessment tax. If I own land with a market value of $3,000 - and I pay 10% every year - that money is going to be divided up equally and carried around to everyone. The owner will receive a portion of his money back, while a property-less person will receive a portion of the owner's money for the first time.
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