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Hey, theoretically we already DO have different home prices for responsible people. It's called a credit rating. If you think that makes no sense, try to survive in this country without ever using credit.
I have. Never used a credit card, never took a loan. I got my home mortgage via manual underwriting and a 30% downpayment accrued after years of saving. You wouldn't know anything about credit though, since you've never actually encountered it or anything related to it.

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I have. Never used a credit card, never took a loan. I got my home mortgage via manual underwriting and a 30% downpayment accrued after years of saving.
Then you do live on credit, unless you get all your electricity through your own generator and none of your water through your pipes. And unless you have no cable or satellite TV, and are going online from a library terminal.
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You wouldn't know anything about credit though, since you've never actually encountered it or anything related to it.
Sounds like you're the one whose knowledge of credit leaves so much to be desired.
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Then you do live on credit, unless you get all your electricity through your own generator and none of your water through your pipes. And unless you have no cable or satellite TV, and are going online from a library terminal.
Those aren't credit-based services, they're recurring monthly fees for services rendered. Credit or debt would be borrowing $20k from a bank to buy a new car, or using your credit card to buy a new computer. What planet are you from?

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Your cable and internet is not credit, because you are paying for the month before, not the month after (so you are paying prior to use of stuff). However, from an accounting definition, anything that you recieved prior to payment is considered 'credit' until it is paid off (meaning electricity and water), but on a personal finance level (like what shows up on your credit report under 'credit'), those things do not qualify as 'credit'.
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Your cable and internet is not credit, because you are paying for the month before, not the month after (so you are paying prior to use of stuff). However, from an accounting definition, anything that you recieved prior to payment is considered 'credit' until it is paid off (meaning electricity and water), but on a personal finance level (like what shows up on your credit report under 'credit'), those things do not qualify as 'credit'.
You're making a meaningless distinction, however, because you can't get those services (or get them at the same price) without a good credit record.
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They do if you do not pay them promptly. They will affect your credit if you go into late payment and really hurt if you go into collections.
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You're making a meaningless distinction, however, because you can't get those services (or get them at the same price) without a good credit record.
I know a lot of people with piss poor credit that have cable, they don't do more than a basic credit check to make sure that you don't have a history of fraud, that is hardly the level to earn the adjective "good." Even people with no credit at all can get cable or a cell phone or internet. They aren't checking your credit, they are checking your history, which just happens to be in your credit report.

I was making the distiction to point why you two may have been seeing the same word with different meanings, in an attempt that we could move past it.
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You're making a meaningless distinction, however, because you can't get those services (or get them at the same price) without a good credit record.
Yes, you can. You're charged by kWh for electric, and your water bill depends on carrier and whether or not you own or rent.
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They do if you do not pay them promptly. They will affect your credit if you go into late payment and really hurt if you go into collections.
That effects your credit score, not your credit. Your credit score is a guide line to how much credit you can be trusted with, it is not the credit itself.
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And here I though we were talking about credit ratings. Silly me.
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