Villains in the Mortgage Mess? - Page 4 - Political Fever

Oregon Elephant · #31 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 10:47 PM

I currently have a subaru outback, that is suppose to get 28 mpg, but only gets 20, I've had the engine looked up and down (along with the trannie and just about every other part that might effect it) but we can't figure it out, but oh well.

Starting tomorrow, I'm going to try taking the bus to work (save $30 a week just on gas, plus what I save on maitainence), it will be a 90 minute commute each way. But, I'll bring a book.

AnnEsthesia · #32 (**permalink**) 06-09-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant

I currently have a subaru outback, that is suppose to get 28 mpg, but only gets 20, I've had the engine looked up and down (along with the trannie and just about every other part that might effect it) but we can't figure it out, but oh well.

Starting tomorrow, I'm going to try taking the bus to work (save $30 a week just on gas, plus what I save on maitainence), it will be a 90 minute commute each way. But, I'll bring a book.

Not everyone has that luxury.

Space_Coyote · #33 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 12:29 AM

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So why the hell should I as a taxpayer be expected to bail out these financial companies when they act stupidly? Better get yourself a new talking point quick.

When did I suggest that we should bail out anybody?

Space_Coyote · #34 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 12:35 AM

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You talk as if everyone went out and purchased an expidition, when actually very few (% wise) were purchased. If you want to blame people that drive SUV's that is a mistake on your part. Many of the people that drive them, actually need the space, like parents that have 3 kids, or people that have family members in wheelchairs (wheelchairs don't exactly fit into the 14 cu in trunk of a tiny toyota). Or you have contractors that to do their job and keep america running need something that can pull their needed materials to their work site.

SUV's are useless. Vans have more space, better mpg, and generally cost less, but people still rushed out and bought up the SUV's because they looked cool and were powerful. Don't try to tellme SUV's aren't a huge part of the market, been on the highway lately?

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The Oil companies are gouging beyond what is the demand, as seeing as Chevron issued an over 75% increase in their SMG funds (which pays the exec's saleries and write offs) from 2006 to 2007. They saw a gross profit increase of 100% in one year.

That's their job. Don't buy it if you don't like it, or cut back on other non-essentials. I don't like paying $4 a gallon anymore than you do, but they aren't wronging you in anyway by raising the prices on THEIR PROPERTY. It's not yours until you buy it.

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India recently desided to stop subsidies to oil and thier prices skyrocketed over night. That means that there demand would fall, opening more oil to the rest of the world. The market would dictate that prices would then fall for us as a competitor fell, but prices didn't fall, they shot up 8% in one day.

GLOBAL demand exceeds supply, so any lapse in demand is quickly absorbed by another country. The only way to lowers prices is to increase supply, which the hippies have worked tirelessly to thwart since the 70's.

Space_Coyote · #35 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 12:37 AM

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Amen OE. I drive a Jeep Cherokee... hardly a huge car. I need it to haul my kids, my groceries and my dog around. It is 10 years old and we own it fully. Sure, I can downsize (we are thinking of getting some kind of 4-door), but I would have to still have the Jeep for outings with the dog, or trips to the vet with two cats, etc etc.

A Ford Focus sits three in the back, two up front, and has enough space for my sister's collie. You drive a Jeep because it's convenient, and that's your right, but don't pretend that it's a necessity.

AnnEsthesia · #36 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 09:30 AM

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A Ford Focus sits three in the back, two up front, and has enough space for my sister's collie. You drive a Jeep because it's convenient, and that's your right, but don't pretend that it's a necessity.

Um... it is a necessity. Don't presume that you know me or you have some sort of right to judge. I have not looked at a ford focus, but most cars do not seat three when you have two huge car seats in them. And as for having the dog in the back seat... she is an active dog and does not sit still well. She needs to be behind a dog gate in the back of the car so that she does not jump all over everyone and try to get into the front seats. Believe me, we have tried it. NOT fun or safe.

But please. Could you be condescending some more and tell me how you know what I need more than I do?

Birdzeye · #37 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 11:20 AM

I bet the people who bought Priuses are peeved to see their anticipated gas savings (dollar wise) evaporate with the hike in gas prices.

Birdzeye · #38 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 11:21 AM

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But please. Could you be condescending some more and tell me how you know what I need more than I do?

Yeah, the condescension from the oil industry apologists is really tiresome .

Temperature 451 · #39 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 12:29 PM

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When did I suggest that we should bail out anybody?

Great idea! Let's have a chain reaction of bank failures and 75% unemployment.

Space_Coyote · #40 (**permalink**) 06-10-2008, 12:32 PM

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Um... it is a necessity. Don't presume that you know me or you have some sort of right to judge. I have not looked at a ford focus, but most cars do not seat three when you have two huge car seats in them. And as for having the dog in the back seat... she is an active dog and does not sit still well. She needs to be behind a dog gate in the back of the car so that she does not jump all over everyone and try to get into the front seats. Believe me, we have tried it. NOT fun or safe.

But please. Could you be condescending some more and tell me how you know what I need more than I do?

I'll stop just as soon as you stop telling oil companies what THEY need, ok?

What exactly is the difference between me telling you what you should reasonably have and you telling oil companies what they should reasonably have?

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