Makes note in pawpilot not to piss off Michael...

Excellent idea, Michael! Let's go after the CEOs...

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Cmon Michael, you know as well as I that it's the bottom line that matters...

For instance, in order for the Waltons to make billion$, they have to support the outsourcing of $40,000 or $50,000 a year manufacturing jobs to China, so they can import their cheaply made products to be sold at their stores so those who used to have those jobs can save $2500 on crap they don't really need in the first place.

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Good idea...

maybe you could convince the oil company CEOs to stop dragging their feet and actually build some new refineries there.

I heard a few weeks ago someone suggest using closed military bases which seemed like a good idea to me at the time. I have since learned the oil companies don't like that idea because the bases are not close to existing pipelines. So I'm thinking, the brownfields would also have to be close to those pipelines.


Are they?

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Yucca Mountain is on a seismic fault... so therefore it is not really a good place to store crap that will be radioactive for billions of years...



edit to add: don't they build those waste receptcles under the plants BEFORE they build the plant? Be kind of hard to retrofit our existing plants right now, don't you think?

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Stripey:

And my bottom line is America first. We need sanctions against outsourcing. We need to use of our homeland security overkill on surveillance of normal citizens for tapping into the transactions of all those offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands.

Then there is the good old fashioned French Revolution approach. Marie Antoinette said the peasants could eat the crumbs that fell from the royal table. She got beheaded.

Vive La Revolution

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I think the people who are dragging their feet are the environmentalists. Stifling growth suits both their stated and actual agenda. I don't see why a CEO beholden to stockholders would want to stifle growth in his company, since stock value is dependent on growth potential.

Military bases are typically as far away from urban areas as possible. But not always. Brownfields are typically in urban areas. Pipelines typically go to urban areas to feed "tank farms", which of course, feed the urbanites huge appetite for fuel.

There are faults everywhere. The vast majority are small and inactive, just like Yucca Mountains. The reason why we know about them at Yucca speaks to the tremendous detail of the geotechnical studies that have been done there. My understanding of the Yucca faults is that they haven’t been active for millions of years and that it sits in one of the most stable regions on the continent. This makes perfect since most fault activity occurs near the edges of continents, and Yucca is fairly near the geographical center.

I think the term “billions of years” is an exaggeration. Regardless, the life of the facility should be long enough to safely store the material until such time that the technology exists to reprocess it or make it inert. With that in mind 100 years would be reasonable. Others think differently so a longer time period is the goal. If that design life is exceeded, renovations could be done to extend the life at that point in time, or a new facility built and the waste moved to it. That is a common and well known occurrence with any structure.

I don’t know the details about French storage techniques. But a “plant” is typically several hundred acres of land with only a small fraction occupied by actual buildings. So I think we would be talking about building containment under vacant land. Regardless a deep vertical shaft could be built next to a building and a horizontal rock tunnel dug under it. That is a common construction technique for deep tunnels.

Did you read the article wannabehippie put up? or just discount it out of hand because it came from the Washington Post?

In it it quotes oil company execs saying it is not in their best financial interests to build new refineries at the time of the article... maybe with gas and oil prices at record heights, they'd answer differently now.

Blame those who can but choose not to. The oil companies.

Got record profits quarter after quarter?

why yes... yes they do...

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And the record profit go to 2 groups The CEO's/Board members and the shareholders.

The share holders should demand increase capabilities looking for growth as the way to reap more profits in the long run.

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Amazing how the rightwingers blame the environmentalists for no new refineries, when it's actually because the oil companies (admittedly) aren't building them because it's "not in their best financial interests." Grrrr.