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Old 05-17-2008, 01:22 PM
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Amazing how the rightwingers blame the environmentalists for no new refineries, when it's actually because the oil companies (admittedly) aren't building them because it's "not in their best financial interests." Grrrr.

rightwingers can't place the blame where it belongs because it would anger their campaign contributors, and besides, it's much easier to blame the hippies who love nature and care nothing about the anti-nature republican causes.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:27 PM
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Did you read the article wannabehippie put up? or just discount it out of hand because it came from the Washington Post?

In it it quotes oil company execs saying it is not in their best financial interests to build new refineries at the time of the article... maybe with gas and oil prices at record heights, they'd answer differently now.

Blame those who can but choose not to. The oil companies.

Got record profits quarter after quarter?

why yes... yes they do...
I didn’t have to read it because I know what it said. You just confirmed it.

Stock holders aren’t content with mere profits. They want growth. And the CEO who produces that growth is rewarded, and so has a big incentive to build refineries.

But stockholders, and their CEOs, are also wary of risk, because it diminishes profit. The fact is that, due to environmental legislation, and especially environmentalists with unlimited legal resources and a populace of useful idiots, it is extremely risky for a company to build new refineries. They have to invest millions in planning and studies before they can break ground. And as we have seen with nuclear power plants, even after billions are spent and a plant is actually completed, it can be shut down before it produces its first dollar in revenue.

Even though I didn’t read it, I know that the article from the Post didn’t address that issue.
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Old 05-17-2008, 01:30 PM
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rightwingers can't place the blame where it belongs because it would anger their campaign contributors, and besides, it's much easier to blame the hippies who love nature and care nothing about the anti-nature republican causes.
That’s a ridiculous partisan statement. I’m about as right wing as they come and I’m certainly not anti-nature, and I know of no fellow Republican who is.
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That’s a ridiculous partisan statement. I’m about as right wing as they come and I’m certainly not anti-nature, and I know of no fellow Republican who is.
It isn't what republicans say they believe in that I care about.

Its the votes they make and the bills they introduce that I listen to and they speak a totally different tune.

Do you know the difference between formal and informal values?
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And my bottom line is America first. We need sanctions against outsourcing. We need to use of our homeland security overkill on surveillance of normal citizens for tapping into the transactions of all those offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands.

Then there is the good old fashioned French Revolution approach. Marie Antoinette said the peasants could eat the crumbs that fell from the royal table. She got beheaded.

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Turn them all over to the teorrists who enjoy beheadings. Think about how well that would send the message to heads of Boards and the CEO's and maybe the Blue Bloods might just come off their high horses.
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It isn't what republicans say they believe in that I care about.

Its the votes they make and the bills they introduce that I listen to and they speak a totally different tune.

Do you know the difference between formal and informal values?
There is always more than one way to solve a problem. Because Republicans don't choose the government method doesn't make it wrong. In fact, more often than not, the government "solution" makes the problem worse.
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