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Old 07-23-2008, 05:21 PM
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Bush's latest: Birth control pills are abortion
Proposed rule at HHS would broaden definition of ‘abortion.'

The Bush administration is proposing a rule that defines abortion so broadly that it even includes prescribing or dispensing birth control pills. The rule would likely make it harder for many women to obtain legal contraceptives. It should be scrapped.

A draft regulation circulating at the Department of Health and Human Services might not appear, on the surface, so threatening. It would cut off federal funds to hospitals and states that try to compel medical providers to offer legal abortion services to women.

The wording is what's troubling. It defines abortion to include a number of commonly used birth control methods, including pills, IUDs and emergency contraceptives. It says abortion is “any of various procedures – including the prescription, dispensing and administration of any drug or the performance of any procedure or any other action – that results in the termination of the life of a human being in utero between conception and natural birth, whether before or after implantation.” Several common birth control methods, including pills, can interfere with implantation in addition to ovulation.

While federal law already ensures that doctors, hospitals and health plans can't be forced to perform abortions if they have religious or ethical objections, this regulation would apparently let providers also refuse to dispense birth control.

It appears specifically designed to undermine recent state laws enacted to ensure that women can get contraception when they want or need it. Opponents say the proposed rule would let a medical worker's beliefs trump a patient's rights to birth control.

The problem can be most acute for women in small towns or rural areas, where the number of doctors and pharmacies is limited. Without a legally protected right to birth control, those women may be denied a perfectly legal medical product if the only doctor or pharmacist in town doesn't believe in birth control or believes emergency contraception to be a form of abortion.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:26 PM
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Of coarse it is a word game. A game both sides are playing. How do you get pro-abortion to mean force? It would mean to allow abortions. To allow or not to allow. Pro-choice is a carefully chosen sound good word. OMG to fight against choice. Choice is a good thing. Choice is a broad positive word. The woman's choice is only a small fragment of that word. Like it or not that word is part of their game.
Nope, pro-abortion would mean forcing people to have abortions, and liking them.
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Nope, pro-abortion would mean forcing people to have abortions, and liking them.
I'm for that. I'd make it so that the Bush family would have to abort all its babies.
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Nope, pro-abortion would mean forcing people to have abortions, and liking them.
You do not have to like something to support it.

Being pro-something means you support that something. You support abortions, you do not have to like them. No where does the word abortions have anything to do with force.
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So things are being planned within his administration that Bush is against?
Wow- you attempted to disprove that the article only showed Hillary's spin by quoting- Hillary. Good job!
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So they are wrong? This is not being distributed?
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So they are wrong? This is not being distributed?
I liked it before you editted it. Something about "premature ejaculation".
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Here, read it for yourself, though I am guessing you will claim that somehow this is not real or blah blah blah...

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Therefore, for the purpose of these proposed regulations, and implementing and enforcing the Church Amendment, Public Health Service Act §245, and the Weldon Amendment, the Department proposes to define abortion as “any of the various procedures—including the prescription and administration of any drug or the performance of any procedure or any other action—that results in the termination of the life of a human being in utero between conception and natural birth, whether before or after implantation.”
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/emailp...HHS-45-CFR.pdf
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