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Old 08-15-2008, 01:02 PM
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If 'one' innocent person is executed, then by definition 'the state' becomes a murderer. As 'we the people' are theoretically 'the government' we become by extension murderers ourselves. I am uncomfortable with this idea as one day judgement will come (speaking from my theological perspective).

You can punish the guilty without 'taking' a life. You can throw someone under the jail and lose the key. Your argument is silly and illogical that 'government would shut down' without capital punishment. Capital punishment was 'unconstitutional' for awhile (IIRC in the 70's) and government didn't shut down.
The government merely makes laws, and has a duty to enforce them. It is the person who breaks the law that is responsible for what happens next.

The guy who built the bridge isn't responsble to the guy who jumps off of it.
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The government merely makes laws, and has a duty to enforce them. It is the person who breaks the law that is responsible for what happens next.

The guy who built the bridge isn't responsble to the guy who jumps off of it.

What is the government breaks the laws? Who enforces it then?
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What is the government breaks the laws? Who enforces it then?
That depends on what the definition of is is.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:14 PM
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:52 AM
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Only a drunk would think it's a good idea to ban contraceptives.
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Only a liberal would say that not having the government pay for birth control is banning it.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:52 AM
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Only a liberal would say that not having the government pay for birth control is banning it.
Not a liberal.......I see no promotion of sound money, free markets and 'liberty' in this line of thinking.
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If 'one' innocent person is executed, then by definition 'the state' becomes a murderer. As 'we the people' are theoretically 'the government' we become by extension murderers ourselves. I am uncomfortable with this idea as one day judgement will come (speaking from my theological perspective).
That is a very interesting idea, and I must admit I never thought of it that way.
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