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Old 07-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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I liked it before you editted it. Something about "premature ejaculation".
Yea, but I decided that it was unfair of me to lump you in with people who really suffer.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:50 PM
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Note it is the same exact wording as in the "opinion piece".
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:02 PM
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Note it is the same exact wording as in the "opinion piece".
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SUMMARY: The Department of Health and Human Services proposes to promulgate regulations to ensure that, in accordance with the Church Amendments (42 U.S.C. § 300a-7), Public Health Service (PHS) Act §245 (42 U.S.C. § 238n), and the Weldon Amendment (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2008, Pub. L. No. 110-161, § 508(d), 121 Stat. 1844, 2209), Department funds do not support morally coercive or discriminatory practices or policies in violation of federal law. This notice of proposed rulemaking proposes to define key terms, and to ensure that recipients of Department funds know about their legal obligations under these nondiscrimination provisions, the Department proposes to require written certification by recipients that they will comply with all three statutes.
Finally the truth, after 110 posts: the federal government wants to respect the taxpayers and not use public funds to pay for the morning after pill. Yet the opening line of the OP article has Hillary playing the sexist-victim card. What a hoot- but she goes on:

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"Women would watch their contraceptive coverage disappear overnight," said Clinton.
Which is a lie because The Pill and condoms don't meet the definition.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:24 PM
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Why is that so objectionable?

I could see where you were going with this, if sex were a criminal act,, where unavoidable consequences obviously make sense but since it is not... I completely fail to understand why it is so important for all sex to result in birth.
Not all sex results in birth and I'm sure you know that. Responsible people accept the consequences of their choices, they don't try to mitigate those consequences. I just expect people to know the risks of their choices and accept those risks - and I don't want the government involved in any way whatsoever.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:25 PM
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So Chan. You feel that married couples (ignoring unmarried for the moment) should only have sex for procreation and that if they wish to enjoy a healthy sexual relationship, they should deal with however many kids they wind up having?

Why are you so against birth control?
I think they should accept the consequences of their choices instead of trying to mitigate or escape those consequences. And, as I'm sure you're aware, not all sex leads to pregnancy.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:28 PM
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Premise: People have sex.
Premise: More unwanted children = bad for everybody.
Premise: Contraceptives = less unwanted children.
Conclusion: Contraceptives = irresponsible.

Yeah, something's not really adding up, here.
Your second premise is not necessarily true. Not all sex results in pregnancy.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:29 PM
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Yes, and one way to "prepare" for the "consequences" would be to take a birth-control pill...yes?
No, that would be trying to escape the consequences.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:31 PM
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Here comes the clue train, last stop; you!

There is no such thing as a fundamentalist pro-abortion person. No one that I know of wants to force women to get abortions (except Tom DeLay, but that's a different matter). The opposite of the "pro-life" position would be "pro-abortion;" forcing women to get abortions.
I think it's better to replace the term "pro-life" with "anti-abortion."
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:34 PM
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Odd as it sounds, I might even consider myself pro-abortion, not just pro-choice. But, I try to approach the topic from a moral-neutral and purely population control stance. Arguments with people involving deeply held core beliefs, like religious ones, is usually pointless.
While I happen to be anti-abortion, I don't want the government involved one way or the other (either legislating for it or against the procedure).

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Anything that helps us with both quality and quantity control of our species' population is a good thing, in my book. Considering the resource drain during a person's lifetime, and that it lessens the available resources for everyone else, I don't see the sense in allowing even one unwanted child.
Do you not trust nature to maintain a proper balance?

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I even take a very dim view of these seven/eight child families. Children aren't Pokemon, and you don't have to collect 'em all!
They make up for the couples that choose not to have families.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:35 PM
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Why stop at just unborn babies? I realize that they are defenseless, therefore no risk to the killer, and perhaps that’s your motive, and if so, why not go after the infirmed? How about the old folk?- most of them can’t put up much of a fight.

Based on your stated reasons, the sick and old should be a higher priority to be killed, because they take up more “resources”.
The founder of Planned Parenthood was part of the eugenics movement in the early 20th century and advocated sterilizing the poor, people of color and the "feeble-minded."
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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