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Civil Liberties and Civil Rights Discuss Civil Liberties and Civil rights here. Also discuss discrimination against minority groups as well, and ways to solve these issues.

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Old 07-14-2008, 11:46 AM
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July 10, 2008 | The U.S. Justice Department is considering a change in the grounds on which the FBI can investigate citizens and legal residents of the United States. Till now, DOJ guidelines have required the FBI to have some evidence of wrongdoing before it opens an investigation. The impending new rules, which would be implemented later this summer, allow bureau agents to establish a terrorist profile or pattern of behavior and attributes and, on the basis of that profile, start investigating an individual or group. Agents would be permitted to ask "open-ended questions" concerning the activities of Muslim Americans and Arab-Americans. A person's travel and occupation, as well as race or ethnicity, could be grounds for opening a national security investigation.

The FBI's plan to "profile" Muslims | Salon
So what does this teach us? That racial profiling is okay now, that it's a good idea to make assumptions about one based on ethnicity?

Ah, nothing like good ol' fashioned bigotry and racism. Brings out the "land of the free" don't ya think?
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The same as every country in the world.
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Why, then, do we pride ourselves on our freedom?
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So what does this teach us? That racial profiling is okay now, that it's a good idea to make assumptions about one based on ethnicity?

Ah, nothing like good ol' fashioned bigotry and racism. Brings out the "land of the free" don't ya think?
In the end I think this doesn't bode well for anyone in America, regardless of ethnicity.

Anyone else ready to organize and kick their asses out?
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In the end I think this doesn't bode well for anyone in America, regardless of ethnicity.

Anyone else ready to organize and kick their asses out?
Let's do it.

Then again, the other news story is that the new FISA bill gives the government the ability to spy on our internet posts without a warrant, so they might find out about our plan.

US civil rights activists protest new wiretapping law - heise online UK

The ACLU is suing already. One good plan is to donate money to the ACLU. They are working as hard as they can to protect our rights.
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Let's do it.

Then again, the other news story is that the new FISA bill gives the government the ability to spy on our internet posts without a warrant, so they might find out about our plan.

US civil rights activists protest new wiretapping law - heise online UK

The ACLU is suing already. One good plan is to donate money to the ACLU. They are working as hard as they can to protect our rights.
No one needs a warrant to "spy" on internet posts. They are in the public domain ;)

But really this is just a big *** downward spiral that we are in right now. We have been building up to this for the past 15 years or so and until the American population wake up and pull their heads out it is only going to get worse.
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Oh boy, I can't wait until the government starts executing Muslims for no reason
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So what does this teach us? That racial profiling is okay now, that it's a good idea to make assumptions about one based on ethnicity?

Ah, nothing like good ol' fashioned bigotry and racism. Brings out the "land of the free" don't ya think?
Maybe that's what it teaches you.

I say what the hell took them so long to be serious about fighting terrorism?
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Why, then, do we pride ourselves on our freedom?
Hypocrisy ?
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