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Civil Liberties and Civil Rights Discuss Civil Liberties and Civil rights here. Also discuss discrimination against minority groups as well, and ways to solve these issues.

View Poll Results: Can rights be rescinded?
Yes, they certainly can be. The people giveth and taketh away. 11 39.29%
It would be so hard to do, I can't even imagine it. 0 0%
Only under certain circumstances. Depends on the right. 10 35.71%
All "rights" are really just privileges, and we have to earn them. 1 3.57%
Never, ever! God gave us all our rights, and they are sacred. 6 21.43%
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:16 PM
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Question for general debate:

Can a right be rescinded?

Obviously, it doesn't happen often, but, in theory, does government have that ability? If so, under what circumstances? Examples? Are rights absolute and God-given, or are they purely human constructs and what can be granted can be taken away?

Just curious to see how others view what rights mean, and what they are to us.
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Well, yeah. There is nothing that naturally belongs to us. The government can take away any right it so chooses, our right to free speech, right to a fair trial, right to vote, right to bare arms. But we have the ability to stand against the government if they try to pull something like that. They can try it if they wish, but they choose not to because either they don't really want to or they know that they'd never succede.
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They can take away my freedom but they can't take away my mind.

Rights are given and taken away all the time but there are certain rights that no one cay take away. Like the right to make up your own mind.
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It depends (#3) and this is a perfect example.
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Because "rights" are not intrinsic to human beings, any right can be taken away at any time.

Rights are something we completely made up.
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Question for general debate:

Can a right be rescinded?

Obviously, it doesn't happen often, but, in theory, does government have that ability? If so, under what circumstances? Examples? Are rights absolute and God-given, or are they purely human constructs and what can be granted can be taken away?

Just curious to see how others view what rights mean, and what they are to us.
Yes, of course they can. I shoot you, there I took away your right to life.
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Yes, of course they can. I shoot you, there I took away your right to life.
No, you took away the life, not the right to it.
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No, you took away the life, not the right to it.
Ah yes, I see, but as you say if government says you have no right to life, or more appropriately "you have no right to free speech" the right is gone.
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