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| Civil Liberties and Civil Rights Discuss Civil Liberties and Civil rights here. Also discuss discrimination against minority groups as well, and ways to solve these issues. |
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| Yes, they certainly can be. The people giveth and taketh away. |
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10 | 35.71% |
| All "rights" are really just privileges, and we have to earn them. |
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| Never, ever! God gave us all our rights, and they are sacred. |
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No it is just a right that is being oppressed.
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What is it that gives us rights then, if not our society and state?
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They are Natural. ![]()
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Why? What says that rights are natural? There is no evidence for this, and the facts point to it being more likely that rights are given by the state, rather than just oppressed by it, apparently there is a right to bear arms but many nations and people disagree.
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Simply at the most basic form that people can do what they want without harming the rights of others.
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What says they are not? There is more evidence of my view then you have of yours. The State is there to oppress rights, they are never their to give them, they only recognize them. Do you support gay rights? Well if you do, then you see those rights as Natural as many States do not recognize them or oppress them. See the logic.
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Pioneers are walking all around singing songs about Lenin and they should be shot for it. Handlebars "If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H. L. Mencken Beagán agus a rá go maith. Economic Left/Right: 3.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87 |
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"Rights" aren't natural. They're a human invention based on a collective experience. We grant rights, we limit them, we take them away, all based on what works for whatever society we live in.
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We support/protect them or we prevent/oppress them. They are still there either way.
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