Here is a test case about how to balance freedom of religion with other issues. Was it the rights of the parents to deny medical treatment for their son? Does this case rightfully involve criminal child neglect?


Teenager from faith-healing family dies in Oregon
Wed Jun 18, 8:25 PM ET

Teenager from faith-healing family dies in Oregon - Yahoo! News

GLADSTONE, Ore. - Authorities say a teenager from a faith-healing family died from an illness that could have been easily treated, just a few months after a toddler cousin of his died in a case that has led to criminal charges.

Tuesday's death of 16-year-old Neil Beagley, however, may not be a crime because Oregon law allows minors 14 and older to decide for themselves whether to accept medical treatment.

"All of the interviews from last night are that he did in fact refuse treatment," police Sgt. Lynne Benton said Wednesday. "Unless we can disprove that, charges probably won't be filed in this case."

An autopsy Wednesday showed Beagley died of heart failure caused by a urinary tract blockage.

He likely had a congenital condition that constricted his urinary tract where the bladder empties into the urethra, and the condition of his organs indicates he had multiple blockages during his life, said Dr. Clifford Nelson, deputy state medical examiner for Clackamas County.

"You just build up so much urea in your bloodstream that it begins to poison your organs, and the heart is particularly susceptible," Nelson said.

Nelson said a catheter would have saved the boy's life. If the condition had been dealt with earlier, a urologist could easily have removed the blockage and avoided the kidney damage that came with the repeated illnesses, Nelson said.

Benton said a board member of the Followers of Christ church contacted the authorities after Beagley died at his family's home. The teen had been sick about a week, and church members and his family had gathered to pray Sunday when his condition worsened, Benton said.

In March, the boy's 15-month-old cousin Ava Worthington died at home from bronchial pneumonia and a blood infection.

Her parents, Carl and Raylene Worthington, also belong to the church. They have pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and criminal mistreatment, and their defense attorneys have indicated they will use a religious freedom defense.

After earlier deaths involving children of Followers of Christ believers, a 1999 Oregon law struck down religious shields for parents who treat their children solely with prayer. No one had been prosecuted under it until the Worthingtons' case.

Members and former members of the church in Oregon City have told The Oregonian newspaper in previous interviews that the congregation has 1,200 people. It has no apparent ties to other congregations or any mainstream denomination.

If we can arrest people who beat their children, why can't we arrest this?

I see know difference, except that beatings aren't necessarily fatal.

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-Joseph Welch

Because the boy was over 14 and because he himself refused treatment, they won't be charged. I don't see how you can charge the parents when the boy himself desided to refuse treatment.

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Why should parents be required to subject their children to Western medicine? Just because a bunch of damned government-loving, religion-hating control freaks say so?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Ah. I didn't catch that. Makes all the difference.

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"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch

Why should we subject parents to any Western values? If they want to wallop their kids, then so be it.

Hell, maybe a kid who is caught stealing cookies from the jar should have his fingers broken.

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"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch

I personally think that the age should be higher than 14. While the parents are the legal guardians, they should be the ones responsible for all medical decisions and responsible for any outcome of their decision.

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Set your destination with your heart, get there with your mind.

"The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

Yes, why should any country impose their values on anyone?

If that's what a particular society chooses, I don't have a problem with them doing that.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Oregon Elephant:

Sorry another one of those Oregon articles. What can I say? (^:

I will answer this with your own lines, "If that's what a particular society chooses, I don't have a problem with them doing that."

That is what our particular society is going to choose, so does that mean that you don't have a problem with that?

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Set your destination with your heart, get there with your mind.

"The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides