Grim gave us these two statements - I believe - from pastor Wright. The question is, are the statements fact, or Racist, or can they be both??

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

I don't see this statement as racist because I think the statement is true. But is it also racist?



“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

They apparently believe that racism does exist today. Does that make the statement racist?

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The only way I could say they are racist is in that they are trying to paint whites as the enemy to minorities. While this may be true in some places, certainly it is not the image that mainstream America follows.

But these statements certainly are false. That whackjob never got out of the sixties I dont think.

Racism does not run the country, in fact there is so much legislation that gives power to minorities that I would say sometimes it is being unfair to whites in the realm of affirmative action, etc..


And what does he mean the "white west" is ignoring black concerns? What about all the stuff we do to help Africa? And theres plenty of black people in congress and in the white house and all. What is the black agenda for today? How is it being ignored?

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Well first off the statements are certainly not true.

Is he racist, probably.

Are those statements racist, the first one a little bit. Ghost explained the reason. It most certainly is collectivist BS.

The first statement is a bit of a rhetorical flourish but the second one is more solid. The second one is a bit of a compound sentence though, it makes several claims.

1. The United States was founded on racism.
2. The United States is run on racist lines.
3. The United States believes in white supremacy.
4. The United States believes in black inferiority.

The bit about God is a rhetorical flourish again.

So, he's made the claims. Is he wrong or right?

Wrong. Yes we believe in white supremacy and a black guy is most likely going to be our next president... ya ok. He is just another nut job preacher.

Niether are racist and both have truth behind them, covered with flowerey rhetoric.

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Bringing race into a situation where no racism exists is racist IMO.911 had nothing to do with being white or being black. AMERICA got a wake-up call, not just WHITE America. And the second statement above has absolutely nothing to do with the first. I see no logic to it. The person saying this is a racist.

This is a false, racist statement.

Some people make everything out to be racist. Everything is not. Those who do so are among the biggest racists, IMO.

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Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

...it isn't logical, therefore the guy saying it is a racist.

Hmm.

Racism is how the country was founded. Remember how slavery was enshrined in the Constitution? Remember how we had to fight a war in order to stop black people from being treated as property? Remember how blacks were still treated terribly up until the '60s?

And you think racism has completely disappeared in barely 40 years.

Okay.

Old habits die hard, I'm afraid.

And if he is a racist, does it even matter? After all, white people are such an oppressed demographic.

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His making something about race that has nothing to do with race is what makes him racist. His lack of logic was merely incidental.

Where the heck did I say that? I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth.

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Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

1. It was founded at a time when there was racism. It was not founded on it.
2. There is nothing in the constitution or in politics that is racist or pursueing a racist agenda.
3. Skinheads are some of the most hated in America.
4. As a whole, no. Individuals perhaps, but no one in politics would be dumb enough to make that claim or pursue anything promoting it.

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As long as the fire burns we shall never be free..." (The Shadows of Yavara, Final Reclamation)