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Old 06-17-2008, 10:05 AM
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This chip will ONLY work to show when they get on and off the bus. The chip is on their backpack and only has their school ID on it. That is all. lol Do you carry a cell phone? Then you better stop, because they know where you are any time it is on!
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:22 AM
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This chip will ONLY work to show when they get on and off the bus. The chip is on their backpack and only has their school ID on it. That is all. lol Do you carry a cell phone? Then you better stop, because they know where you are any time it is on!
Yes, that's what they're saying now. Again, what happens when the kid doesn't bring his backpack to school? What happens if he gets a new backpack? But what you're not getting is where this kind of thing leads.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:41 AM
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No, I get where your paranoia leads, but step away from your fear and think logically. Do you honestly think anyone would even suggest putting microchips in the bodies of kids? Give me a break. This is right up there with the "We can't let gays marry because then people will marry goats" argument.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:55 AM
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No, I get where your paranoia leads, but step away from your fear and think logically. Do you honestly think anyone would even suggest putting microchips in the bodies of kids?
Give it time. It will be done incrementally, with each step taken "for our protection," just like this one. That's why things like this need to be stopped now before further inroads against privacy are instituted.

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This is right up there with the "We can't let gays marry because then people will marry goats" argument.
I disagree. Apples and oranges. I'm all for two people being able to marry regardless of gender but I'm opposed to anything that takes us closer to a surveillance society.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:56 AM
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I don't know about all of you, but only about 2/3 of my class carried school bags. Many of us would just hold our books.
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:58 AM
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Well, I do not see it. All this does is track when the kids get on and off the bus. To claim that it will lead to microchips in the bodies of people is ludicrous. As I said before, better stop carrying your cell phone, as they can track where you are using it. Got onstar? Better get it removed from your car as they always know where you are. Etc etc.

It is paranoia.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:04 AM
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I would say this idea is at least a big waste of money and at most a privacy issue. It is different from cell phones or onstar because you are being forced to get it.
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I don't really see the big deal. This is an interesting tracking mechanism. Students do not have the same level of rights as adults. Rights are limited for minors in school. Instead of the bag, put it on something else they always carry around like--shock--an ID card.


Ideally, the tracking system would be active all throughout the school, allowing administrators and parents to know where they are and if they are in the school. Surveillance is a good thing, and this is public property anyway. You are out in the open. Privacy rights are limited there too.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:39 AM
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I don't really see the big deal. This is an interesting tracking mechanism. Students do not have the same level of rights as adults. Rights are limited for minors in school. Instead of the bag, put it on something else they always carry around like--shock--an ID card.
So the parents should decide. If it were an option for the parents to decide then I would say it is just a waste of money.
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Old 06-17-2008, 11:42 AM
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The parents can have a say. Ultimately, it should be up to the school as a tracking mechanism on school property. What the parents want is just added benefit. It would probably only be used in bad and depressed areas anywhere. If they can successfully do what it does more cheaply another way, go for it.
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