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Old 06-17-2008, 01:33 PM
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And it's their right to choose not to sell certain products. It's your right to take your business elsewhere and to encourage others to take their business elsewhere. Let the marketplace work!
If we are talking about a small town with one pharmacy and not enough people to support a second one, then your argument will never fly.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:34 PM
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Change contraceptive and women to men and heart medications. Would you still agree?
Yes. There is no right to any particular product.

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Medications are not the same as any other product.
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If you are making it restrictive and hard for a woman to get their legal prescription filled, then you need to go find something else to sell.
These businesses are free to make those choices. You are free to choose not to frequent those businesses and to encourage others not to frequent those businesses.
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Old 06-17-2008, 01:35 PM
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If we are talking about a small town with one pharmacy and not enough people to support a second one, then your argument will never fly.
Then these people can go to another town. Yes, it's an inconvenience but it sends an important message to the pharmacy in question.
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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No, it is a right. Or do you feel only men should be able to have healthy and happy sex lives?
Contraception includes condoms and those too are a commodity. Viagra is also a commodity.
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"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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I am also free to do as we did in my state and lobby the legislature to make it illegal. The pharmacist has no right to impose his morals on me.
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Then these people can go to another town. Yes, it's an inconvenience but it sends an important message to the pharmacy in question.
Or maybe the pharmacist could just find another line or work and let someone who is able to actually do the job help the patients.
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Or maybe the pharmacist could just find another line or work and let someone who is able to actually do the job help the patients.
Exactly. He is licensed to do the job of dispensing prescriptions. That is his JOB. He should not have legal sanction to obstruct that process. Better that he go into another line of work where his moral issues won't interfere with the performance of his dutie than be allowed to interfere in the lives of a number of people.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:03 PM
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I am also free to do as we did in my state and lobby the legislature to make it illegal. The pharmacist has no right to impose his morals on me.
No, you do not have the right to force your morals (or lack thereof) on a private business and you definitely don't have the right to get the government to enforce your morals on private businesses.
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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Old 06-17-2008, 02:05 PM
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Or maybe the pharmacist could just find another line or work and let someone who is able to actually do the job help the patients.
Or maybe you should stop trying to impose your morality (or lack thereof) on private businesses. If a pharmacist opens up his own pharmacy, then it's his right to dictate what products he will or will not sell. If he works for someone else, then it's his employer that has the right to decide what he will or will not sell (if he doesn't like it, he can go work somewhere else).
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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Old 06-17-2008, 02:07 PM
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Exactly. He is licensed to do the job of dispensing prescriptions. That is his JOB. He should not have legal sanction to obstruct that process. Better that he go into another line of work where his moral issues won't interfere with the performance of his dutie than be allowed to interfere in the lives of a number of people.
And just who the hell do you think you are to dictate what a private business MUST do????? And you call yourself a libertarian! Medications are a commodity, not a right.
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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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