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Old 06-13-2008, 02:54 PM
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Drive on Chan... I'm glad someone can help others understand the truth.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:54 PM
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So the Courts shouldn't have the power of judicial review? Is that what you are saying, since you are obviously against the effects of Marshal's decision. It is a valid function of the Supreme Court to validate and interpret the Constitution in light of congressional acts.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:01 PM
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So the Courts shouldn't have the power of judicial review?
In criminal matters, yes. But we're talking about enemy combatants in a time of war. In this case, the Geneva Conventions apply.

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Is that what you are saying, since you are obviously against the effects of Marshal's decision. It is a valid function of the Supreme Court to validate and interpret the Constitution in light of congressional acts.
No, it is not a function of the Supreme Court to validate and interpret the Constitution. It is, however, a valid function to interpret laws passed by Congress in the light of the Constitution.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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Even the CIA admits that 9/11 happened in retaliation for nearly 50 years of American interference in the internal affairs of Middle Eastern countries.
Well, sure, since we've never had any problems, domestically whatsoever! And, since America is entirely perfect, of course we're automatically justified in telling others how they should be.
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So the Courts shouldn't have the power of judicial review? Is that what you are saying, since you are obviously against the effects of Marshal's decision. It is a valid function of the Supreme Court to validate and interpret the Constitution in light of congressional acts.
The court should definitively not have the power of judicial review because that creates a dictatorship of the judiciary in which the plain language of the Constitution can be construed to mean anything that is political expedient for the advancement of the ideology of the majority opinion. Why do you think SCOTUS nominations always make headlines?
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SC, the Supreme Court is normally pretty sober and moderate. Normally.

But, appointments are made by politicians, and, unfortunately are for life, two things I don't think is very wise. Justices should be elected, apolitically, removed from political party machinery as well. And, terms should be for about ten years, I think. Half our SCOTUS Justices probably have no idea what the Internet is, or that Sonny and Cher aren't together anymore.
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SC, the Supreme Court is normally pretty sober and moderate. Normally.
Like knowing obsenity when they see it? Sorry, it's illegal and irrational to grant SCOTUS judicial review.

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But, appointments are made by politicians, and, unfortunately are for life, two things I don't think is very wise. Justices should be elected, apolitically, removed from political party machinery as well. And, terms should be for about ten years, I think. Half our SCOTUS Justices probably have no idea what the Internet is, or that Sonny and Cher aren't together anymore.
Texas elects their judges apolitically, everybody still knows where they fall politically. You need to remove the judiciary from Constitutional law entirely if you seek to preserve liberty.
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No third branch, then? No-one to determine the Contitutionality of Executive or Legislative action? What, exactly are you advocating?
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Only in the eyes and minds of socialist Levi. These people are enemy soldiers till proved differently. And to release them means we will be fighting them once again.
I think we ought to release them in the middle of DC and observe what happens.
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:00 PM
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Because they're not American citizens! They should certainly have the protections granted under the Geneva Conventions but they should not be given access to American courts or otherwise be treated as if they're American citizens.
Do you think holding people indefinitely without charges, the american way?
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