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Old 05-04-2008, 10:54 AM
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Gays are usually seen as peace loving and meek. When in reality, they are involved in some of the most brutal murders the police see in their entire careers. Why is this? Does their lifestyle lead to this behavior?



Homosexuality and Murders

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Vernon J. Geberth, M.S., M.P.S. who is a former commander of Bronx homicide for the New York City Police Department stated in 1995 regarding homosexual murders that homosexual murders are relatively common and these murders may involve male victims murdered by other males or may involve female victims who are in some type of lesbian relationship and they are murdered by another female. In 2005, Dr. Harnam Singh, Dr. Luv Sharma, and Dr. Dhattarwal reported in the Journal of Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine in regards to homosexuality and murders that homosexual murders are quite common and that these murders may involve both sexes either as victims or as assailants.

The statements above are not surprising given the studies regarding homosexual couples and domestic violence.

Homosexual Murders and Brutality

Dr. Eckert wrote regarding homosexual murders the following:

“ Equally high is the number of homicides, many probably related to transient attachments, which often lead to suspicion, jealousy, and murder. When murder does occur it is exceptionally brutal with an overkill appearance... Overkill, as it is seen in homosexual and lesbian murders, is certainly a form of sadistic crime. In these instances multiple stabbing and other brutal injuries...are common findings... ”

The eminent pathologists Bernard Knight and Pekka Saukko stated that it is a fact that some of the most violent homicides seen by pathologists are among male homosexuals.Bernard Knight CBE, MD, BCh, MRCP, FRCPath, FHKCPath, DMJ was a Professor of Forensic Pathology in the University of Wales until he retired in 1996. In 1993 he was made a Commander of the British Empire (CBE) for his services to forensic medicine. Dr. Bernard Knight has been involved in many notorious murder cases, including Fred West and Rosemary West, Roberto Calvi (the Vatican banker), the child killer Mary Bell, and the Truscott case in Canada. Dr. Pekka Saukko is Professor and Head of the Department of Forensic Medicine at the University of Turku in Finland. Dr. Saukko is also the editor of Forensic Science International. Doctors Knight and Saukko coauthored a pathology textbook entitled Knight's Forensic Pathology in 2004 which stated the following:

“ As with heterosexual offenses, the cause of death in fatal cases is almost always some form of general trauma, such as strangulation or head injuries. Homosexual activity, however, may be a parallel event; it is a fact that some of the most violent homicides seen by pathologists are among male homosexuals. ”

The previously cited article in the Journal of Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine states regarding homosexual murders the following: "These "Lovers' quarrels" between male homosexuals manifest an increased level of violence due to the fact that the parties involved in the emotional conflict are both sexual aggressors."

The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Michael Newton reports the following regarding the issue of homosexuality and murders:

“ Homosexual slayers clearly have no monopoly on violence, but it is true that their crimes often display extremes of "overkill" and mutilation... On balance, it seems fair to say that while homosexuals sometimes fall prey to "gay bashing" violence by bigoted "straights," they are far more likely to be murdered by another homosexual than in a random hate crime.
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Don't worry, it's been reported. I see a pink slip coming.
I agree. And for me to agree with you, on this, also makes my brain hurt. I need a Tylenol. Although mods have read it and it stayed. They deleted my post from before. I guess the thread passes muster. But I didn't report it though, maybe that was the difference.
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I agree. And for me to agree with you, on this, also makes my brain hurt. I need a Tylenol.
Reported for what?

This is a legit subject that should be up for debate like everything else.

Why the censorship when it comes to homosexuality?

I posted the artical in an objective and fair manner.
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Reported for what?

This is a legit subject that should be up for debate like everything else.

Why the censorship when it comes to homosexuality?

I posted the artical in an objective and fair manner.
Your "one-note samba" is attempting to portray gays and lesbians in a less than favorable light. It won't be tolerated. Seems you didn't learn one single solitary thing from your exile. Perhaps revisiting it, might prove insightful.
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This is a legit subject that should be up for debate like everything else.
what subject?

that gay and straight people both alike have murderers in their communities?

WOW

now that's some kind of revelation
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Your "one-note samba" is attempting to portray gays and lesbians in a less than favorable light. It won't be tolerated. Seems you didn't learn one single solitary thing from your exile. Perhaps revisiting it, might prove insightful.
I am not here to portray gay and lesbians in any favorable or unfavorable light.

I just post articals for debate like everyone else does.

If you take them in a negative way, or they don't line up with with your personal agenda.

That's just too bad!!
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Reported for what?

This is a legit subject that should be up for debate like everything else.

Why the censorship when it comes to homosexuality?

I posted the artical in an objective and fair manner.
Well, you go for it dude. Have fun with it. I just don't think this is something to build a thread with. This is more like supporting evidence of another larger topic of debate.
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what subject?

that gay and straight people both alike have murderers in their communities?

WOW

now that's some kind of revelation
According to the artical most homo on homo murders where far more sadistic and brutal than normal hetrosexual homicides.
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Dustin was vehement about slurs aimed at gas and on this thread, he clearly stated this applies to Thunder and Lightening.

We are currently having a staff discussion on this thread. While this is an article, it does convey an image of gays as prone to violence and extreme forms of violence.

Unless I see statistics giving us some comparisons with the general population in terms of rate of homocides and rate of extreme homocides, I am not convinced this is more than an OPINION.

We will get back to you.
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