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Old 05-03-2008, 11:55 PM
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The Australian Labor Party has not taken long at all to start acting as the social oppressors they are. It is illegal in Australia to spread the word about how bad multiculturalism is for Australia, about how the white Australian is losing all their rights so that immigrants holding an allegiance to foreign powers such as China, are allowed to do as they please.

Go out on the street and shout about how bad multiculturalism is, you are on the road for criminal conviction. What the ALP are upset about is their lack of power in punishing those who express their views on the internet so to fill this major hole in legislation, they are discussing new laws that will see any political website which they regard as hate, blocked by the Internet Service Providers(ISP's).

Taking the opportunity to hide under the discussion of Federal Labor's first budget, the Attorney-General's from the Labor governed state and territories, they are working under the cover of darkness to introduce laws that will repeal any remnants of freedoms of speech, of thought, of action, of anything they deem unsuitable for you.

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"RACE-HATE websites could be banned under an internet censorship proposal being considered by state and federal attorneys-general.

"The plan, which is in its early stages, has aroused concern among civil libertarians who fear it could be used to stifle political debate.

"The attorneys-general, meeting in Adelaide last week, commissioned a report on the viability of authorising the Australian Communications and Media Authority to combat race-hate sites by ordering internet service providers to take them down.

"At present, ACMA polices websites that breach copyright, promote terrorism or publish extreme pornography.

"There are racial vilification laws, but the problem with the internet is you can't trace down the people," NSW Attorney-General John Hatzistergos said yesterday.

"Any material that incites vilification and hatred is of concern. Material on the internet is a particular concern because it provides a cheap and easy means of dissemination to a very wide audience."

"The proposal, which would be open for public consultation before any decision was made, followed a referral to the attorneys by state and federal police ministers, Mr Hatzistergos said. Concerns had also been expressed by non-English-speaking groups about comments on white-supremacist websites.

"For the ACMA to be able to take down sites, it would require a new definition of the "refused classification" category used by the federal Government's Classification Board to deal with violent pornography and similar material. The proposed system could affect websites such as the one operated by the Australia First party, which was involved in the civil unrest at Cronulla in December 2005.

"An article on the group's website, signed by "Joni", compares Muslims to mould. "You have the innocent, healthy, cheese block sitting in your fridge minding its own business til one day you peel back the wrapper to see a tiny section of mould on the surface," she writes.

"Just when you think it's safe to appreciate your cheese in your own environment again you see it's back. Now darker, deeper, growing, invading, insidious."

"But Dale Clapperton, from the online civil liberties group Electronic Frontiers Australia, said a problem with banning such sites was that "it inevitably turns them into martyrs and gives more attention to the type of material you are trying to suppress".

"The best cure for 'bad' speech is more speech," Mr Clapperton said."

Law chiefs plan ban on race-hate sites | The Australian
LABOR WATCH!: Labor Seeks Extreme Internet Censorship
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:02 AM
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Australians are really headed down a dark road. First they allowed themselves to be disarmed, now they're allowing their speech to be regulated. It seems that the "slippery slope" argument prevails yet again.
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Frank, is this your white supremist friend?
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No need to panic.

1. We haven't been disarmed.
2. There is no such thing as absolutely free speech.

However, good to see civil liberties groups on this, we must watch all politicians of all stripes all the time.
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No need to panic.

1. We haven't been disarmed.
2. There is no such thing as absolutely free speech.

However, good to see civil liberties groups on this, we must watch all politicians of all stripes all the time.
Is this your way of excusing this act of dictatorship?
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Frank, is this your white supremist friend?
Is this comment aimed at me? Not quite the right way to respond to a person who is showing Australian governments for what they are - Dictators!
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Is this your way of excusing this act of dictatorship?
No, it's a considered response to a blog article and an article in The Australian. For what it's worth I'm opposed to the proposal and I have taken it up with my federal MHR.

But it's not evidence of a dictatorship and to claim such is ridiculous. Compare this with the Bush Administration's trashing of the US Constitution and you can see there's no comparision, Bush and Cheney are running a dictatorship, our federal government is nowhere near them.
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diuretic, do you know anything about Howard's appalling laws that has led to newsrooms across the nation having their news stories vetted by Federal Police and ASIO?

Such an action is unAustralian to use the term and something I stand strongly against. When any government regardless of colour sets out to block viewing of a political site because they don't like it, then we live in a dictatorship. No questions.
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I'd be surprised if news stories were being vetted. I would have expected to have heard something concrete about it. That type of event would be subject to great leakage one would think.
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Is this comment aimed at me? Not quite the right way to respond to a person who is showing Australian governments for what they are - Dictators!
Dictators is a contradiction in terms. There is never more than one dictator at a time. Dictatorship is not oligarchy.

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The Australian Labor Party has not taken long at all to start acting as the social oppressors they are. It is illegal in Australia to spread the word about how bad multiculturalism is for Australia, about how the white Australian is losing all their rights so that immigrants holding an allegiance to foreign powers such as China, are allowed to do as they please.
Get real, man, white people run the ****ing world. Don't whine about how white people's rights are being taken away, it's total bull****.
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