I personally found that remark about homosexuals being "a group that wants to promote perverse sexual proclivities" insulting but didn't want to raise an off-topic issue on the thread where it was posted. Now I'm wary of starting another homosexuality thread but I'd like an explanation from Chan. Why do you, Chan, think it's your place to make judgements on what is right or wrong in the private sexual preferences of other people? What makes homosexuality any worse morally speaking than heterosexuality?

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There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union.
The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

Oh oh. Here we go again. Morals are personal and the "line" can be drawn anywhere you want. You can't dictate morals to anyone. There was a guy having sex with a picnic table...I wonder where his morals are. But you can tell someone you feel that they are against your morals. And anyone is free to do that. I feel abortion is immoral, but some people have no problem killing what is obviously a developing human. Stuff like that.

But the "why's" can get kinda dicey and start having people complaining about usage of the word deviant.

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I know, but this thread will stay polite and on-topic.

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Trust me, I'm a socialist!

There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union.
The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

You better put on your "super moderator" suit then.

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I've just stepped into a telephone box and spun around really quickly so I think I've got my "super moderator" suit on. Anyway, back on-topic.

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Trust me, I'm a socialist!

There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union.
The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

Oh, please don't start again. The word or the usage of it is not the problem.
The problem is applying it where it doesn't belong....to people who are anything but. Different ideology. Your ceiling...my floor. Don't make "your issues" anyone elses (as if you could....limitations "abound".)

Alright let's get Joe in here to discuss it. It IS deviant according to the dictionary in easily definable terms. Dictionary definition compliance is optional obviously when referring to homosexuality though. Since the "true" dictionary breakdown of homo and phobia come nowhere near the universal applications of the term homophobia.

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homophobia is a term coined by legitimate accredited mental health professionals.

It's not a matter of how it's "applied" - it's a matter of it being a medical term with a defined parameter of meaning.

Perhaps you should petition the mental health professional community to change the word if it offends you so deeply.

I'm sure they'd be highly interested in your scholarly take on the word that has been accepted and used for quite some time now.

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...Christian Nestell Bovee

Oh, quit your whining! Why is it okay for people to express dislike for conservatives or religious people or skinheads or pedophiles or (insert other politically incorrect group here) but as soon as someone makes an unfavorable statement about a politically favored group, you people start whining? Get over yourselves! There is no right to not be offended.

Take my comment strictly within the context in which it was said and stop presuming to dictate to me what I can believe about homosexuals!

Rights are for individuals, not for groups. In the specific context of the United States of America (I realize this doesn't apply to you government-loving nanny staters over there in Europe), if you're born in the United States or are a naturalized citizen then you're an American and that is the only status I recognize. In terms of rights, I don't give a rat's behind what color you are or where your ancestors came from or how they got here. I don't care what religion you choose to practice or even if you choose to practice any religion at all. I don't care what your particular sexual proclivities are. Your rights are as an individual American.

But I damned well am not going to abide by any of this political correctness, diversity and tolerance crap, and you people who are so insistent on this garbage are the people who are preventing the end of racism and bigotry because you're promoting this divide and conquer mentality that keeps us from becoming one people.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Yes, it deviates from what is normative within the species. These people get all bent out of shape over nothing and they whine about tolerance and diversity but are damned intolerant of anyone who says anything that offends them.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."