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I support you confronting this jacka$$, but you'd been better not to have punched him. I mean, if he attacked you first, by all rights, have at him. You're lucky you're only 16; in another year or two, you could be jailed. Judges tend to look at assault as a serious matter. So, for your sake, I hope you've gotten it out of your system. The world is full of jacka$$es & I'm afraid you're going to have to learn to deal with them w/o punching them.
But I do hope, since you did punch him, that he at least lost a tooth or got a broken nose. A fat lip at the very least. ![]()
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First, I find the concept of a day of silence for gay rights ridiculous. They celebrate that kind of nonsense but heaven forbid they call Easter and Christmas by their rightful names because of the religious connotation. Political correctness run amok.
Now to what you did. Understandable given the provocation but you must understand that violence is not the answer. You'll be confronted by many irritations in life and you certainly can't go around solving them with your fist. Sorry, but you bought the suspension. Finally, suck it up, take your suspension and learn from it. Life isn't fair. I hope that this helps. |
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Simply put, you were wrong. I think that when you start chucking violence about, all it does is legitimize or justify the offensive words of the other guy. Honestly I think it takes a bigger man to shrug off the insults and verbal abuse than to take the mofo out.
On the other hand I absolutely support confronting this sort of behaviour, just not violently.
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True and fair enough on all your parts. But I've stood by and watched this guy insult other people at least 25-30 times, and I've been insulted by him before. I've confronted him about it. He doesn't learn. He's a sheltered kid who thinks he's invincible, but he really just needed to be awakened to the world. Oh and yeah, he was bleeding. I really try to avoid violent contact, and only use it as a last resort, and this, since my friends and those people who were not doing anything to this kid, and he was just berating and berating, I felt I had to say something. So I did, then he turned on me, I told him to cut it out. He didn't. So I punched him. It was a series of bad decisions on his part and a series of me trying to solve it nonviolently. Most other times this has happened I've just left it, but since he's had so many chances, I feel that he had to wake up to the real world. You're right... Life's not fair.
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Second, free speech includes the right of people to say things that thoroughly piss everyone else off. Third, you've tried the diplomatic approach and it didn't work; hopefully his mouth is sufficiently painful that it causes him to regret his choice of words. While I don't agree with this Day of Silence crap and don't believe that rights or respect should be based on being part of a group (particularly part of a group that wants to promote perverse sexual proclivities; rights and respect are for individuals, not groups), I applaud you for how you handled the situation.
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and what is wrong with a group of people that have been oppressed getting together to try and get themselves equal rights? Back to the original post, i agree with Donkey Jote. This kind of behavior that this kid was showing must be confronted, but non-violently.
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A. This is not about gay rights. It's about gay bashing of students.
B. Schools are NOT involved in the organization - it is a grass roots movement led by students. C. Quote:
D. I never follow my own lectures. I'm completely against violence - I preach non-violent demonstration always - I would reprimand you for doing what you did. I would have done exactly the same thing.
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