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Old 05-01-2008, 11:55 PM
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The idea of hackysack, though, is to keep the sack from touching the ground.
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The idea of hackysack, though, is to keep the sack from touching the ground.
I forgot that?!?!?! Uh oh...
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:14 AM
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How many people here know about the typical high school environment? The favorite food at lunch for Jockoslobs is carrots. Why? Are they trying to get healthy? No, they throw them at who they consider to be gays, nerds, loosers, etc... They leave a pig sty behind for staff to clean up and no one other than their groupies are allowed to hang out around them.

And when they start busting students for being loaded, for having sex at lunch, on the back forty acres of campus, that rarely visited restroom, on the bus or in Science, it is usually one of these arrogant Jocks!

themisfithitman: You are 16? I never graded a 16 years old report or essay like your post number 1. You need to get into college.

My response? Here's an e-high five!
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Old 05-02-2008, 12:16 AM
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I can't say I ever went to High school.


But what's wrong with having sex. ;)
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:41 AM
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This may come as as surprise to "Chan" - but pedophilia is illegal. Homosexuality is not.
Irrelevant because at one time homosexuality was also illegal.

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Consequently, the analogy is not only odious, but ludicrous.
The two are entirely comparable in the particular context of my post and this "one is legal and the other isn't" argument you're making doesn't change that. Stick to the point!

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I am always very very concerned about the neighbors and family members of people unable to discern between the legal acts of consenting adults and the rape of children. It just seems like a situation simmering until it explodes on the 11pm news.
Legality is irrelevant. Technically, an 18 year-old having sex with a 15 year-old is illegal but it's legal for someone who is 17 years, 11 months and 29 days old to have sex with a 15 year-old. The difference is an arbitrary piece of legislation. There was a time when homosexuality was illegal. There was a time when adultery was illegal in some societies. So, don't give me this crap about "one is legal and the other isn't."
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Irrelevant because at one time homosexuality was also illegal.

The two are entirely comparable in the particular context of my post and this "one is legal and the other isn't" argument you're making doesn't change that. Stick to the point!

Legality is irrelevant. Technically, an 18 year-old having sex with a 15 year-old is illegal but it's legal for someone who is 17 years, 11 months and 29 days old to have sex with a 15 year-old. The difference is an arbitrary piece of legislation. There was a time when homosexuality was illegal. There was a time when adultery was illegal in some societies. So, don't give me this crap about "one is legal and the other isn't."
And so there was prohibition....it was overturned. So what? What's your point?
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:47 AM
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Pedophilia is completely different! How can you equate the two???
Pedophilia is not only illegal, but also children do not give consent to the adult that is having sexual relations with them. Please refrain from equating homosexuality and pedopihila again. It is insulting.
No, pedophilia is not "completely different." We're talking strictly about groups demanding rights. Pedophiles are a group. We might find this particular group so repulsive that it brings out objections like yours but you cannot deny that they are a group.

So, stick to the damned context of what I said and knock off this whining about being offended! I don't give a rat's behind about whether one is legal and the other isn't because there was a time when both were illegal. I don't give a rat's behind about whether one involves consent and the other doesn't because we're not talking about the children here. We're talking strictly about GROUPS of people. If one group can go about demanding its rights, why can't other groups?
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:49 AM
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And so there was prohibition....it was overturned. So what? What's your point?
The point that you so obviously missed because you were too damned busy reacting instead of reading was the following:


Magicmaester wrote: "and what is wrong with a group of people that have been oppressed getting together to try and get themselves equal rights?"

I replied:

"So, if a group of pedophiles gets to gether to try to get themselves equal rights because they're being "oppressed," you'd have no problem with that? Rights are for individuals, not groups. They are based on the individual (and on being American) and not on being part of this or that group."

Try to keep up.

And for the rest of you people getting all bent out of shape because I used the word "pedophiles," feel free to insert some other noun for another group that engages in sexual proclivities that define them as a group. Feel free to insert a noun for some group that has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual proclivities if it makes you feel better. Otherwise, quit your damned whining.
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."


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Old 05-02-2008, 08:57 AM
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Keep that a secret from women and blacks - m'kay?

If rights can be kept from a group, they can be granted for a group.
Wrong answer, as always. It is the individual that has rights.
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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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Old 05-02-2008, 09:16 AM
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The point that you so obviously missed because you were too damned busy reacting instead of reading was the following:


Magicmaester wrote: "and what is wrong with a group of people that have been oppressed getting together to try and get themselves equal rights?"

I replied:

"So, if a group of pedophiles gets to gether to try to get themselves equal rights because they're being "oppressed," you'd have no problem with that? Rights are for individuals, not groups. They are based on the individual (and on being American) and not on being part of this or that group."

Try to keep up.

And for the rest of you people getting all bent out of shape because I used the word "pedophiles," feel free to insert some other noun for another group that engages in sexual proclivities that define them as a group. Feel free to insert a noun for some group that has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual proclivities if it makes you feel better. Otherwise, quit your damned whining.
Oh, I can keep up, despite the thread being incoherent.
"Bent" is hardly the intransitive verb I would use in conjunction with your "diss" of gays and lesbians.
Why you and a certain someone else choose to routinely equate gays with pedophiles is beyond me and most other sane folk. You didn't "blink".

"Rights are for individuals, not groups"??????? Women, children, miners, the disabled, the elderly are some "groups' that come to mind. And they don't fit your category of "individuals", as class action lawsuits are filed and executed daily.
Please don't expose us to your sexual hangups and homophobia. Live and let live is standard practice.
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