So predictable. Why am I not surprised?
I think #2 might be your personal motto....am I right?

Hmm...certainly would be tempting given the situation wouldnt it? (regardless of the whole day of silence thing)...which is ridiculous...unless they extended it indefinately...which might solve a few issues. But I didnt say that.

Anyways, the guy got what he deserved, but it probably wasn't the best thing to do. Id love to say that anyone should have the right to respond with full force against an aggressor (certianly happens on an international level), but by using violence as punishment and retribution it would only strenghten the arguement of those who use violence for crime and power.


If you were smart, you would have gone and stood in his face or something until he pushed you out of the way or something, then you could technically say you were defending yourself. ...Hey....but I didnt say that either.

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As long as the fire burns we shall never be free..." (The Shadows of Yavara, Final Reclamation)

Regarding the second point, free speech is meaningless if the people whose views so thoroughly piss you off that you just want to rip off their heads and urinate into the open hole aren't just as free to openly share their views as you want to be regarding your views.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Some schools have caught on and made it an official school function.

So, if a group of pedophiles gets to gether to try to get themselves equal rights because they're being "oppressed," you'd have no problem with that? Rights are for individuals, not groups. They are based on the individual (and on being American) and not on being part of this or that group.

He tried the non-violent approach and it didn't work. I applaud him for doing what needed to be done.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

This may come as as surprise to "Chan" - but pedophilia is illegal. Homosexuality is not. Consequently, the analogy is not only odious, but ludicrous.

I am always very very concerned about the neighbors and family members of people unable to discern between the legal acts of consenting adults and the rape of children. It just seems like a situation simmering until it explodes on the 11pm news.

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...Christian Nestell Bovee

Keep that a secret from women and blacks - m'kay?

If rights can be kept from a group, they can be granted for a group.

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So, if a group of pedophiles gets to gether to try to get themselves equal rights because they're being "oppressed," you'd have no problem with that? Rights are for individuals, not groups. QUOTE]

Pedophilia is completely different! How can you equate the two???
Pedophilia is not only illegal, but also children do not give consent to the adult that is having sexual relations with them. Please refrain from equating homosexuality and pedopihila again. It is insulting.

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"All men are born with a nose and ten fingers, but no one was born with a knowledge of God." -Voltaire

"All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets." -Voltaire

"Fear follows crime and is its punishment." -You guessed it, Voltaire.

First, I think you were totally wrong to punch him out.

Having said that, I certainly can understand the sense of satisfaction you had doing it. ....Just understand that you were wrong and have to pay a price for that sense of satisfaction...sometimes the price is worth it, and sometimes even the WRONG act does some good. Not very often, but sometimes.

But you were wrong. You should have waited until he took a swing at you or grabbed you or something.

Its really hard to comment on this...I WANT to find you justified....I really, really do....I WANT to give you a pat on the back and a cheer and applause...I just can't. Not for the punch. But for sticking up for your friends who are doing nothing wrong or people you don't want to see abused...yes, for that You get a thumbs up. Good thoughts, wrong actions.

BTW...what the hell is "hackysack"? I assume you can play this silently? LOL.

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Phil Collins--In the Air Tonight

Hackysack is where you take a little leather sack full of sand and kick it around... its mildly entertaining

Thanks for the answer to that. Never heard of it. Sounds like "kick the can" only softer. LOL.

I hope you keep that feeling of wanting to stand up for the underdog, the weaker or those disenfranchised. I'm glad you told the bully to shut up. But what other people said is true, too, specially whoever said that if you were a bit older you could well be going to jail.

A little local story. Last year there was a party. Parents were gone and kids had a party one spring night ..mostly classmates from the same school. Some guys from another school showed up. There were slurs thrown back and forth, probabaly underage drinking going on. Started out just throwing insults back and forth...later there were several versions of who started it. All pretty much upper middle class kids, I think. Probably all college bound, all white, (so not a racial thing), All rural, so not a "street thang" or gang thing.

Oldest was 18 I think..youngest was around 15 I think...doesn't matter too much, all high school students with their whole lives ahead of them. Somebody threw an insult. Then somebody threw a punch, then somebody threw a rock. Then somebody picked up a baseball bat, then somebody picked up a two by four.

Final tally. Two dead, one brain damaged debilitating injury, three young men charged with murder and first degree assault. No winners. Six young lives ruined. Not to mention those of their families, friends and loved ones.

So that is why I couldn't give you a pat on the back for the punch.

But for standing up for someone being abused, again...kudos for that. Just need to have a bit more self control when it comes to the physical stuff.

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