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Old 04-28-2008, 02:14 AM
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Both are damaging the moral fiber of this country. But since this thread is about a black supemacy group called "Black Israelites", then I will stay on topic.



Probably the same debate that stemmed from Rev. Wright's hate and racist inspired sermons. There are those that support these racist comments and there are those that do not support these racist comments. That sounds like the beginnings of a good debate to me.
Wright spoke to a NAACP rally today, that was covered by CNN
Obama's ex-pastor delivers spirited speech to NAACP - CNN.com
Once again, he spoke only "truth to power". I have never heard him say a disparaging word, that didn't smack of the truth. "The truth", is merely just hard for "some" to hear.
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Wright spoke to a NAACP rally today, that was covered by CNN
Obama's ex-pastor delivers spirited speech to NAACP - CNN.com
Once again, he spoke only "truth to power". I have never heard him say a disparaging word, that didn't smack of the truth. "The truth", is merely just hard for "some" to hear.
Is one to assume that you support those comments based on your post?
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:44 AM
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Probably the same debate that stemmed from Rev. Wright's hate and racist inspired sermons. There are those that support these racist comments and there are those that do not support these racist comments. That sounds like the beginnings of a good debate to me.
Fair enough, I suppose it depends what you mean, I do think the land that liberal was standing on was "stolen land" and I do think she was probably a spoilt kid. I also agree that America (and others) was founded on the opression of people, but I think it was people of a variety of clours (though clearly there has been a lot of racism against non-whites), I don't think it's a race thing but a class thing. I disagree with the guy's aims because what he was doing was to seperate different races apart, whereas we should all be coming together, in my opinion to overthrow capitalism.
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Old 04-28-2008, 10:18 AM
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Wright spoke to a NAACP rally today, that was covered by CNN
Obama's ex-pastor delivers spirited speech to NAACP - CNN.com
Once again, he spoke only "truth to power". I have never heard him say a disparaging word, that didn't smack of the truth. "The truth", is merely just hard for "some" to hear.
He is a racist. He is ignorant. It was not truth. You already said you are racist that may be why you agree with it.
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He is a racist. He is ignorant. It was not truth. You already said you are racist that may be why you agree with it.
Joe, stop twisting my words. I said that everybody is potentially racist, including you and I. I am not a practicing racist, and I actively at work on my issues, contrary to others. If you continue to insult my intelligence and my positions, I will report you, again.
The reason and only reason I agree with Wright is that he speaks "truth"...he is a man of God, how could he not, and expect folks to follow him?
You, obviously, did not watch the video of him speaking at the event (available at the link I provided). The man is far from ignorant. He spoke the truth, and he was clever and humorous. The audience responded by giving him a standing ovation. I guess from your inference you're also impuning the people attending the NAACP dinner rally, as well, as ignorant, and race mongers.
I'm sure if they knew of you, as I do, they would laugh, like me.
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Is one to assume that you support those comments based on your post?
Did you listen to the video, at the link? I heard it, "live", on CNN, last night, as they thought it important enough to provide coverage.
In answer to your question...I most certainly do. I found him to be "right on time", and witty and clever, in his commentary, contrasting to the "skewed view most Americans have of him via the soundbites which have painted a false picture of the man.
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Joe, stop twisting my words. I said that everybody is potentially racist, including you and I. I am not a practicing racist, and I actively at work on my issues, contrary to others. If you continue to insult my intelligence and my positions, I will report you, again.
The reason and only reason I agree with Wright is that he speaks "truth"...he is a man of God, how could he not, and expect folks to follow him?
You, obviously, did not watch the video of him speaking at the event (available at the link I provided). The man is far from ignorant. He spoke the truth, and he was clever and humorous. The audience responded by giving him a standing ovation. I guess from your inference you're also impuning the people attending the NAACP dinner rally, as well, as ignorant, and race mongers.
I'm sure if they knew of you, as I do, they would laugh, like me.
You said, "he speaks "truth"...he is a man of God, how could he not." I guess that means that you feel that all 'men of God' speak the truth; including Hagee and other white ministers that openly attack homosexuality and NO and what not?
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Wright spoke to a NAACP rally today, that was covered by CNN
Obama's ex-pastor delivers spirited speech to NAACP - CNN.com
Once again, he spoke only "truth to power". I have never heard him say a disparaging word, that didn't smack of the truth. "The truth", is merely just hard for "some" to hear.
I would love to watch the video but it's not working for me, would you mind telling me what he says in it that you agree with?
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The Black in this video ranks down there with the white fundamentalist minister Rev Phelps. He is the one that shows up at the funerals of soldiers killed in the mideast with his followers holding picket signs called the deceased soldiers the "F" gay word. Both examples are "disturbing the peace." The difference is the woman was in a public place and could have walked by. She had a choice. Phelps has been invading private funerals on mortuary grounds (private). We had the article posted here about the man with an anti war T-Shirt that looked like blood had been smeared on it. He was asked to leave or turn the T-Shirt inside out. He refused and was arrested for criminal trespass. This needs to be applied toward Phelps.

Grouch, your sources on this give away your political affiliation. You can list a few extremist black groups and pretend this is more than a few hundred people in a nation of about 320 million. That is less than one percent of all African Americans.
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Old 04-28-2008, 12:27 PM
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You're spot on Michael, a fringe black racist group no one's ever heard of is as insignificant as Rev Phelps's white fringe wacked out religious beliefs.

IMHO white people who pretend black racist groups, like this one, are of any significance to race relations are racists themselves.
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