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Old 04-24-2008, 01:23 PM
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It's along the same things that makes a transgendered person confused by their bodies. The differences are there. What is the difference between a vegetarian and an omnivore? Nothing except one chooses to ignore the fact that the human body was designed to process meat and veggies. Maybe not an entire 3 lb steak a day, but meat all the same.

Just as the mammalian bodies have structures that indicate gender.

And humans have sexual differences that demonstrate the "correct" way humans/mammals should be sexually oriented.

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Yeh, I understand all that "natural" stuff but the "commentary" in the OP was nothing but an uneducated hate speech. Apparently homosexuality was only "discovered" in the 1960's, now I know Queen Victoria refused to believe in lesbians but she did at least recognise that there were gay men, and what is the b/s about a "mystical, magical race"? No-one sensible thinks that they are a different race, or magical in any way.
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Yeh, I understand all that "natural" stuff but the "commentary" in the OP was nothing but an uneducated hate speech. Apparently homosexuality was only "discovered" in the 1960's, now I know Queen Victoria refused to believe in lesbians but she did at least recognise that there were gay men, and what is the b/s about a "mystical, magical race"? No-one sensible thinks that they are a different race, or magical in any way.
We can ignore "what people think". But "what we know" still points to not letting kids choose their own gender at that age. Even veiled in a homophobic rant, some news still has a ring of truth.
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This actually has nothing to do with homosexual marriage or civil partnerships. I don't know where you got that from.
Read the commentary, i agree the article has jack all to do with it though.
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We can ignore "what people think". But "what we know" still points to not letting kids choose their own gender at that age. Even veiled in a homophobic rant, some news still has a ring of truth.
I agree with the general consensus on the issue at hand but I couldn't ignore the homophobic rant.
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Although I can sympathize with those who feel that the gender of their bodies does not match the feelings inside, I think all such transgender therapies and hormonal treatments should be delayed until the person is an adult. Children's minds and bodies are already in such a formative stage that I don't think it's good to transform them further until they are adults and capable of making such life-changing decisions.
I think it's pretty damned idiotic to have a mental disorder (in this case a gender identity disorder) but instead of treating the disorder giving in to it by changing one's physiology. If these people really believe that they're the opposite sex then it's the belief that needs to change and not the body.

Another reason to dismiss all this psychology crap out of hand.
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