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Old 04-19-2008, 11:57 PM
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If you stick a hundred deranged serial killers in the same supermax prison, it's pretty likely half of them will kill each other in the end.
They have zero contact with any other inmates in a Supermax so the chances of that happening are very close to zero.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:23 AM
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They have zero contact with any other inmates in a Supermax so the chances of that happening are very close to zero.
Exactly. And movement outside of a cell is closely, well ovewhelmingly, supervised, prisoners are shackled hands and feet. Again, as it should be. The safety of the workers in the place outweigh the comfort of the prisoners.
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I agree with your point about the "war on drugs", it's such an unbelievably stupid policy (and I mean in my own country) that I can't begin to explain how disgusted I am with our legislators who know the truth but are too frightened to explain to the public lest there be some sort of panicky moral backlash.

But on privileges for prisoners. They're necessary. They must have something to lose if they play up. If those privileges were taken away wholesale then prisons would be even more unmanageable. The people who work in prisons need to be able to manage them.
Possibly. I think cuts on privileges should be made. I think we give them to many comforts. I do not think that is what prison is for, I think it is for punishment. A balance. We can give them the weather channel.
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Possibly. I think cuts on privileges should be made. I think we give them to many comforts. I do not think that is what prison is for, I think it is for punishment. A balance. We can give them the weather channel.
Ah, let them look at the sky on tv?. Puts me in mind of Oscar Wilde's "Ballad of Reading Gaol"
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A lot of you seem to have forgotten that prisoners are people also, forcing them to live a life with absolutely no entertainment is inhumane and tantamount to mindless torture. prisoners need to have something to lose and something to gain and they also deserve to be treated as humans, their punishment is the fact that they're locked up, taking away all entertainment is just crutyel for the sake of cruelty. And those that complain about giving them a balanced meal,... well I have no words.
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A lot of you seem to have forgotten that prisoners are people also, forcing them to live a life with absolutely no entertainment is inhumane and tantamount to mindless torture. prisoners need to have something to lose and something to gain and they also deserve to be treated as humans, their punishment is the fact that they're locked up, taking away all entertainment is just crutyel for the sake of cruelty. And those that complain about giving them a balanced meal,... well I have no words.

Let's break this down...a person gets convicted for murder, is put in prison, and then is not allowed to watch television. That seems EXTREMELY cruel. God forgive us for taking away their entertainment.

Prisoners are people, but you fail to mention is that they are BAD people. That is why they are behind bars. With your logic, parents are terrible people as well when they decide to take television away from their kids as a punishment. Prisoners are lucky with all the perks they get. Bring back the chain gangs and you will see how crime drops.
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Let's break this down...a person gets convicted for murder, is put in prison, and then is not allowed to watch television. That seems EXTREMELY cruel. God forgive us for taking away their entertainment.

Prisoners are people, but you fail to mention is that they are BAD people. That is why they are behind bars. With your logic, parents are terrible people as well when they decide to take television away from their kids as a punishment. Prisoners are lucky with all the perks they get. Bring back the chain gangs and you will see how crime drops.
Yes, maybe but I'd bet you'd also see a drop in the general well-being of society.

You say prisoners are BAD people, but that's not always true and in any case I don't subscribe to the idea that their are bad and good people. Plus, what's the point in just punishing one wrong with a whole host of others? A potential murderer doesn't think "will I get a TV in prison?" before killing (or not) his victim.
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It's not just murders that go to a supermax. Many of them will eventually be released back into society. How can they possibly adjust if they just spent 30 years in prison with no form of entertainment and no connection to the outside world. You could be releasing people that have no idea what a computer is or a cell phone, who don't know whose been the president since Carter, do you think that they adjust that quickly?
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It's not just murders that go to a supermax. Many of them will eventually be released back into society. How can they possibly adjust if they just spent 30 years in prison with no form of entertainment and no connection to the outside world. You could be releasing people that have no idea what a computer is or a cell phone, who don't know whose been the president since Carter, do you think that they adjust that quickly?
Yes a very good point, though not one I'd have expected of you if I'm honest.
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It's not just murders that go to a supermax. Many of them will eventually be released back into society. How can they possibly adjust if they just spent 30 years in prison with no form of entertainment and no connection to the outside world. You could be releasing people that have no idea what a computer is or a cell phone, who don't know whose been the president since Carter, do you think that they adjust that quickly?
Supermax prisons DO have television and entertainment. It's only when they break a rule is when the priveledge is taken away.
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