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Old 04-24-2008, 08:53 PM
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Ok first it must be deemed that death is appropriate punishment for some crimes. If someone is guilty of someone tortures, rapes, and murders 20 women is death an appropriate punishment? I think that the answer is easily a yes. Where to draw the line on what crimes do and do not deserve the death penalty is not really important. Accepting it as a valid punishment for certain crimes. Unfortunately our justice system is not perfect. We have to accept that even though our punishments are valid innocents will mis-convicted. A problem of the Justice system. Some will have to innocently rot to death in a life sentence. It is the same justification as having a prisons as punishment. Life sentence is an appropriate punishment for some criminals.

Zepher your #2 is wrong and I fail to see your point about changing the tax system.
The death penalty may or may not be valid, that isn't the argument. The argument is that the dangers of executing an innocent person are so great that the death penalty shouldn't be used.

I simply want to know how you can justify the continuing existence of the death penalty in the knowledge that it allows that innocent persons will be executed.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:40 PM
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Don't you love little words that allow wiggle room, like 'practically'. Our possibility of convicting a wrong person, when it comes to murder, is also, 'practically' zero. And those that we do convict, by mistake, are found out about and the problem is corrected.
You mean like the two guys in Boston framed for murder by the FBI to cover for their informants in Whitey Bulger's Winter Hill Gang? They spent more than TWENTY YEARS in prison for crimes the FBI knew they did not commit.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:37 AM
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Did you know that black people are more likely to get the death penalty for similar crimes?
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You don't see the contradiction of thinking that the government should not be allowed to heavily tax and at the same time thinking it should be able to kill people?


And no, I don't believe it is morally wrong to kill some criminals. I believe in the death penalty for people who commit genocide and other crimes against humanity--because the evidence is so large that the possibility of a wrongful conviction is practically zero. I do have a problem with killing innocent people, though, which you don't seem to.
By switching the tax system they still would be taxing.

Just as I do not have a problem fining or imprisoning or giving a life sentence to them, it is part of having the a good justice system.
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The death penalty may or may not be valid, that isn't the argument. The argument is that the dangers of executing an innocent person are so great that the death penalty shouldn't be used.

I simply want to know how you can justify the continuing existence of the death penalty in the knowledge that it allows that innocent persons will be executed.
My argument is that if the death penalty is a valid punishment for certain crimes than the rare innocent person being executed is acceptable. Just as it is acceptable to have some innocent imprisoned until they naturally die.
To have appropriate punishment for crimes is the job of the justice system. It is what we, the people, entrust our government to do.
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Did you know that black people are more likely to get the death penalty for similar crimes?
Great(sarcasm). What does that have to do with it? Maybe there was more evidence against them. Maybe they have worse lawyers. There are a lot of maybes.
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