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Old 12-12-2007, 08:46 PM
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What are your views on the Patriot Act?

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This is a pretty big deal for me personally. I do not agree with any aspect of this bill what so ever. It does absolutely nothing positive for this country. I will wait a bit to explain why I feel this way but I want the topic to get talked over a bit before I explain.
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No more Patriot Act. It's in direct contradiction of the Constitution.
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Abolish Patriot Act and everything will be okay.
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Abolish Patriot Act and everything will be okay.
Not quite, but almost.
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unfortunately when the patriot act was voted on it was sudden and America was in a place that if anyone had really raised a fight on it it would have been political suicide. i think only one senator voted against it (Russ Fiengold). i really think this was not politician corruption it was a bad situation and they should have read it and taken a stand but i dont believe there was (for the most part) any plotting
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Old 12-13-2007, 05:33 PM
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Any law or act passed in the heat of fear will not be a good one. Reaction is a bad way to make policy. The Patriot act is like the sedition act only with much less reason.
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:06 PM
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It's unconstitutional and should be repealed immediately!
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The Patriot Act is clearly unconstitutional and the name of the act itself is a travesty.
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:26 PM
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The Patriot Act is clearly unconstitutional and the name of the act itself is a travesty.
Just like "Homeland Security." When have Americans ever referred to our country as "the homeland"? It sounds like something some fascist or socialist state would say - like "the Fatherland."
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:55 PM
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All of this comes from people living in fear. Make sure you explain that to your friends and family. It was the American citizen that got the Patriot Act in place.
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