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Old 01-24-2008, 03:08 PM
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Personally, I think it's gross. But if that's your thing, well, as long as you aren't harming the animal...
you got that it, its just gross...and why anyone would want to do that is beyond me. however, if you arent hurting the animal (what if the animal doesnt want it? he/she cant say no after all )

however, if you really wanna do it, well i guess thats your decision

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I would have thought that a thread like this would be generating more controversy. People get all riled up about gays and morality, naturalness, and legality, but seem to be skipping this subject. Maybe I made that first post too much reading.

well i would have thought it might be too, but appears that while most of us think is disgusting and gross, we also seem to think if thats your thing guess you should be able to do it
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:23 PM
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you got that it, its just gross...and why anyone would want to do that is beyond me. however, if you arent hurting the animal (what if the animal doesnt want it? he/she cant say no after all )

however, if you really wanna do it, well i guess thats your decision




well i would have thought it might be too, but appears that while most of us think is disgusting and gross, we also seem to think if thats your thing guess you should be able to do it
As far as consent goes, the animal really consents. It never consents to being forced to live in a house. That is not really an issue.

As far as abuse, if you are causing pain/harm to the animal that is different. I guess it could be debated, but for the most part there should be no reason to make it illegal if there is no harm done.

I am glad to see for the most part people believe that this should be legal, even though it may be perceived as gross. I do not like limiting liberties because some may feel it is wrong.
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As far as consent goes, the animal really consents. It never consents to being forced to live in a house. That is not really an issue.

As far as abuse, if you are causing pain/harm to the animal that is different. I guess it could be debated, but for the most part there should be no reason to make it illegal if there is no harm done.

I am glad to see for the most part people believe that this should be legal, even though it may be perceived as gross. I do not like limiting liberties because some may feel it is wrong.
OK...it's just my personal opinion..but I really think there is something the matter with you..and that's not a personal attack, just an observation.
There is a line, and you and your mindset have crossed it.
It's either a civilized society with "norms" and "morality" and ethics, or it's chaos and depravity...which do you prefer?
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:34 PM
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OK...it's just my personal opinion..but I really think there is something the matter with you..and that's not a personal attack, just an observation.
There is a line, and you and your mindset have crossed it.
It's either a civilized society with "norms" and "morality" and ethics, or it's chaos and depravity...which do you prefer?
That sounds like the same reasoning behind making homosexuality illegal you know. That is your line, not thiers, and you are not forced to cross it. Why should you not allow others too. There is nothing wrong with me, I respect others to make decisions even if I think they are gross. There decision does not harm me or you.
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If you want to sleep with a mule then fine, hurt it and pay the price, if th animal kicks you while your trying to do something then it doesnt want you
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If you want to sleep with a mule then fine, hurt it and pay the price, if th animal kicks you while your trying to do something then it doesnt want you
Sex with an animal does not necessarily mean harm. When handling a horse or mule at any time you are taking the risk of harm. You are handling a very powerful muscular animal.
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I do not know why anyone that promotes gay rights would want this to be illegal. Many people think homosexuality is gross, but support equal rights. I would think they would be more open minded about it, considering they have to deal with close-mindedness. It seems rather hypocritical to me.
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I do not know why anyone that promotes gay rights would want this to be illegal. Many people think homosexuality is gross, but support equal rights. I would think they would be more open minded about it, considering they have to deal with close-mindedness. It seems rather hypocritical to me.
My point when I bring it up. It's very hypocritical.

And you know what happened when Lawrence made sodomy and by default homosexuality "legal" nationwide....As judge Scalia wrote...
LAWRENCE V. TEXAS
State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers’ validation of laws based on moral choices.
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My point when I bring it up. It's very hypocritical.

And you know what happened when Lawrence made sodomy and by default homosexuality "legal" nationwide....As judge Scalia wrote...
LAWRENCE V. TEXAS
State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers’ validation of laws based on moral choices.
The judges seem to agree with my point.
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I do not see why one would want to have sex with an animal. I cannot stop you. The only thing that pisses me off about bestiality is when people (mainly the Christian right) group it with "interracial relationships." I don't get how you get interracial relationships from bestiality.
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