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Civil Liberties and Civil Rights Discuss Civil Liberties and Civil rights here. Also discuss discrimination against minority groups as well, and ways to solve these issues.

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Old 01-30-2008, 01:52 PM
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Leviathon, Politeness has nothing to do with political correctness. They are two entirely different things.

Politeness comes from knowing what constitutes respect and good manners. Political correctness is a dogma forced on others by the liberati who assume that they have the right to give opinions for people they perceive to be from "minorities" without usually first consulting the people they purport to speak for. This in itself often leads to offence and resentment. An example can be found in the way Christmas is being desensitised by the PC brigade because they tell us that it may offend muslims or other minority religions. I have yet to hear of ANY muslim who is offended by open celebration of Christmas.

Political correctness leads people to sometimes say or do things which they know to be untrue or unnecessary, or not say or do things which they know to be true or necessary, as they are too afraid or embarrassed to be honest or commonsensical.

Political correctness encourages offence to be taken where none is intended. It encourages the re-writing and re-thinking of history along with the abandonment of pride in country. It is a serious threat to free speech and, despite being portrayed to be in the name of tolerance, is completely intolerant of anyone who does not act in a politically correct fashion.
O.k., I am persuaded, as long as denying political correctness doesn't mean denying politeness and sensitivity.
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Leviathon, Politeness has nothing to do with political correctness. They are two entirely different things.

Politeness comes from knowing what constitutes respect and good manners. Political correctness is a dogma forced on others by the liberati who assume that they have the right to give opinions for people they perceive to be from "minorities" without usually first consulting the people they purport to speak for. This in itself often leads to offence and resentment. An example can be found in the way Christmas is being desensitised by the PC brigade because they tell us that it may offend muslims or other minority religions. I have yet to hear of ANY muslim who is offended by open celebration of Christmas.

Political correctness leads people to sometimes say or do things which they know to be untrue or unnecessary, or not say or do things which they know to be true or necessary, as they are too afraid or embarrassed to be honest or commonsensical.

Political correctness encourages offence to be taken where none is intended. It encourages the re-writing and re-thinking of history along with the abandonment of pride in country. It is a serious threat to free speech and, despite being portrayed to be in the name of tolerance, is completely intolerant of anyone who does not act in a politically correct fashion.
Yeah, tell me about it. As someone who was banned in 2 days for what I assume was being politically incorrect and offending a few easily offended members of a certain minority.

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Think of it this way. When I see a Christian, I don't call him a member of a canabalistic death cult, although it's true. Why? I try not to offend people in real life unless it's necessary. Same reason I call retarded people cognitively impaired or slow kids "special." Part of PC is an attempt not to offend. It's really to be taken on a case-by-case basis.

That's the function of PC language.
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Think of it this way. When I see a Christian, I don't call him a member of a canabalistic death cult, although it's true. Why? I try not to offend people in real life unless it's necessary. Same reason I call retarded people cognitively impaired or slow kids "special." Part of PC is an attempt not to offend. It's really to be taken on a case-by-case basis.

That's the function of PC language.
From what I heard wouldn't that be the function of polite language?
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Politically correct language is in part stemming from a desire not to offend people or harm them unnecessarily.

If a store wants to say happy holidays to make it as friendly and wide-spread as possible, not to exclude others from festive mood, that could be polite, culturally sensitive language. It fall sin line with other types of political correctness "politeness" such as important issues of race, gender, disability, etc.. But some people call it PC. It's interchangeable a lot. PC is a type of expected polite terminology or expression in certain circumstances.

The dictionary defines political correctness as: "avoidance of expressions or actions that can be perceived to exclude or marginalize or insult people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
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