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Civil Liberties and Civil Rights Discuss Civil Liberties and Civil rights here. Also discuss discrimination against minority groups as well, and ways to solve these issues.

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Old 01-19-2008, 05:28 PM
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I use "black" when I'm talking - as do all the black people I know.

But, I tend to write African American.

I don't know why the difference - just habit probably.
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:51 PM
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I use "black" when I'm talking - as do all the black people I know.

But, I tend to write African American.

I don't know why the difference - just habit probably.
People tend to talk in a coloquial way but write more accurately, that's probably the difference, I don't talk how I right.

Anyway, I agree with political correctness to some extent, I think it is right for people to treat others with respect and to avoid insulting them. However, I don't think it should go too far.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:53 PM
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well, nothing should go too far

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Old 01-22-2008, 10:23 AM
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The thing about Political correctness is that it is not something that emminated from government mandates, but rather, popular opinion. I will cede to any opposition that political correctness, in moderation, has it's benefits. It started out as a good thing. It's biggest issue being civil rights and similar incedents. It is to our benefit not to call people racially charged names or not to make fun of the mentally handicapped. Anything good about political correctness, more or less, ends there.

Being PC has been taken overboard to the point that it infringes on our education, our freedom of speech, and our general day-to-day life. We created a new classification of crime because of political correctness, The Hate Crime. I'm sorry, but a murder is a murder, assult is assult. It does not matter a persons race or sexual orientation, they are all people.

we are forced to learn history, both American and world history, from a multiculturalist perspective. This teaches us that all cultures are equal. The problem with that is that all cultures are not equal. If that were the case, why would people emigrate from their respective homelands, to start new lifes in a brand new country. If all cultures are equal, how come people arn't flocking to Somalia or Tibet by the hundreds-of-thousands like they flock to America.

Enevitably, someone will get mad that I used America as my example and call me a nationalist or racist or some other baseless insult, so I'll go ahead and lay this out there, I couldn't care less what you call me, I speak my mind, and that is by definition, the Freedom of Speech.

Ladies and Gentlemen , I am not saying that this is a liberal vs. conservative, democrat vs. republican arguement. That would be completely assinine and I'd be betraying myself to side with either. Instead, I present to you a challenge. To live day-to-day without being afraid of getting your feelings hurt, without being afraid of what other people may say about you. You cannot make everybody happy. One company in Austrailia has said that Santa is no longer allowed to say "ho-ho-ho" as it may be considered degrading to women. Instead he must now say "ha-ha-ha." Upon hearing this, one of our posters replied something along the lines of: If Santa says "ha-ha-ha" the children might get upset because they may interpret this as Santa laughing at them.

If you think this is ok, then I beg you to ask yourself if you truely understand the gravity of the current situation. I anticipate that most of you, however, will consider this utterly rediculous. If this is a first for you as far as PC is concerned, you are beginning to understand just how dangerous being PC has the potential to be.

I'm anxious to hear what other people think wrt this issue. It's a pretty hot item going into the election season and some debate/discussion on it would be interesting. Maybe even just stating viewpoints of you own
Political correctness is an assault on liberty and has no place in a free society.
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What problem do you have with being polite? There is no need at all to be rude, it just shows a lack of ability in expression and use of the English language, something which I know you are not lacking in.
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I can't stand politically correctness. I think it's just a tool people use to shut people up from saying things that they don't want to hear. That's why I am as blunt as I am but I do my best to make sure I support my statement with a something that makes sense.

If you don't like what I have to say, good. But if you think I'm wrong, show me. And talking about "me" ain't gonna do it.

It's politically incorrect to say "You know Black culture and all it's sex and violence based entertainment is causing serious issues for the race". Even though the abortion, single parent, incarceration, and disease statistics show that the African American race has SERIOUS issues to work on. SOMEBODY needs to say something. But when Bill Cosby points it out, black people act all friggin offended.
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What problem do you have with being polite? There is no need at all to be rude, it just shows a lack of ability in expression and use of the English language, something which I know you are not lacking in.
It isn't about being polite, it's about a group of people trying to dictate to others what they should or should not say, do, etc.

Freedom of speech includes the right of people to say things I might find vile and offensive.
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Political correctness is fine as long as it does not become law. If a person chooses to be politically correct then fine, if they do not then fine. But, forcing either way is wrong.
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It isn't about being polite, it's about a group of people trying to dictate to others what they should or should not say, do, etc.

Freedom of speech includes the right of people to say things I might find vile and offensive.
I'm sort of in agreement with Joe, if you make it law it has gone too far, but as a general rule it's good to tell people how to be polite, but they shouldn't force you through law to do so.
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What happens when society says it should be law? It's bad enough that one has to restrict certain thoughts because popular opinion is against what someone thinks, but when there is a mass movement to make that become law, the lines have been crossed and it is very hard to go back to living in a society with truely free speech. It's not that I want people to deliberately be disrespectful, that's not it at all, in fact, I would be totally against someone doing that, however, don't they have a right to voice their opinions without fear of oppression?
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