Here are the six consequences if gays are allowed to marry, according to the Mormons who opposed the issue. Some say they are lies by the church. What do you say?

Public Schools will teach that homosexuality and same-sex marriage are normal and acceptable-and if you disagree, you are a bigot. Books like "Heather has Two Mommies" or "Daddy's Wedding" will be used to teach kindergartners about homosexual relationships. When parents in Boston complained about an eighth-grade teacher instructing students about gay sex, the teacher responded, "Give me a break. It's legal now."

Churches will be required to perform homosexual marriage ceremonies or face prosecution under anti-discrimination laws. The California Supreme Court recently ruled that medical professionals may not defer treatment to another professional based on their religious objections. In other words, Christians and those with moral beliefs must check their conscience at the door when they arrive at work. The same case law will apply to churches. Pastors will no longer be allowed to refuse marrying homosexuals based on their religious beliefs

Businesses will be prosecuted for not participating in homosexual ceremonies. A New Mexico photography company is being prosecuted for refusing to photograph the "commitment ceremony" of a homosexual couple. The full force of the government will be used to make citizens publicly accept homosexuality.

Married couples will no longer be considered "bride and groom," but "Party A and Party B." A young couple in Placer County wrote the terms "bride" and "groom" on their marriage license, which was returned from the state as an "unacceptable alteration." A husband and wife are legally referred to now as Party A and Party B according to the California government. By redefining marriage, every marriage has already been affected.

The role of parents will be diminished. The family unit is already under assault with no-fault divorce, acceptance of single parenthood, and nanny government usurping the role of fathers. Homosexual marriage worsens this trend by giving government approval to single-sex parenting. Children need both a mother and a father. By approving homosexual marriage, government and society denies children their right and need for both parents.

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Vote like your life and your families life depends on it - because it does.

Vote like you want peace & prosparity for America - because the right wants more wars, more casualities, more VA hospitals.

Vote like you want a secured border from terrorists, illegal aliens, drugs, and gun runners - because the right offerred you a few miles of wire fence.

Disagreeing with this would be bigotry. The parents who complained can eat a dick up.

Not true. And if it were true, it wouldn't be fair.

Pretty much, yeah.

Oh t3h noes!!!!!!!!!1111111eleven

Yep, because children raised by gay people turn out icky and strange. It's statistically proven.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Like it would actually become part of a curriculum? Still, in much the same way Mormons and other fundamentalist religious groups feel about evolution, the tactic of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling doesn't make facts disappear. Kids ask questions. Teachers should answer them.

Fearmongering. Churches may not marry people if they do not wish to. In fact, my wife's family's church refused to marry my wife and I because I am not religious.

However, the gay marriage would be recognized legally, just the same as if you went to a J.P., with all the legal rights. Gays generally don't give a crap about where they get married, or "making" churches do it.

No idea if this is true or not. Business always have the right to refuse service. And if a business is so idiotic as to refuse good money on such a stupid basis..... Maybe it's just me, but if someone wants to give you money, you find a way to say yes. Cooties on the check?

Semantics. Hardly the downfall of civilization.

A good argument can be made that gay parents are just as or even better parents than many heterosexual couples. I agree that it's best to have two parents, but whether it's MF, MM or FF, what possible bearing could that have?

Nobody has adequately explained to me how gay marriages affect others, or why, other than pure spite, so much energy is expended in fighting what has absolutely no bearing on anyone else.

The whole attitude is juvenile, and needs to be committed to the dustbin of history ASAP.

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"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

54 constitutional law experts came out with a paper saying that both the CA and US constitutions protect the Church's religious freedom not to marry same-sex couples if they oppose and services concerning homosexuality would not be considered hate speech. This is a big duh to anyone who has done a quick read through the constitution but was the major issue that the Yes on 8 campaign ran on.

As far as I am concerned orientation just like race cannot be changed. The argument that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals is reminiscent of the interracial marriage ban argument that both blacks and whites had the same right to marry a member of their own race. It is absurd.

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I dunno. Is it fair for private institutions to refuse services to black people? How is that any different?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

True true. I contradicted myself.

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That's fine. One doesn't NEED a church to marry. We need to quit caring what churches think.

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"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

There were churches in California that supported a no vote on 8, led protests and candle light services because of the initiative and married same-sex couples when it was legal. But yes people can get a civil marriage from a city clerk.

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Succinct. Repped you for the second part.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Exactly. My understanding of the issue is that it's not about forcing everyone to "accept" homosexuality or change everyone's minds through legal means, but to be accorded the same rights and privileges as others.

You can't force people to change their prejudices, but you can enforce equal rights.

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"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...