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Old 11-16-2008, 11:18 AM
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Obama on Drugs
Should reformers dare to hope?
Jacob Sullum | November 12, 2008


Last week voters in Massachusetts approved a ballot initiative that eliminates criminal penalties for possessing up to an ounce of marijuana, replacing them with a $100 civil fine. Michigan, meanwhile, became the 13th state to allow the medical use of cannabis.

As Bruce Mirken of the Marijuana Policy Project noted, the percentage of voters approving those initiatives (65 and 63, respectively) exceeded Barack Obama's share of the vote in each state. Furthermore, the results in Massachusetts and Michigan seem to reflect national opinion. For years polls have indicated that a large majority of Americans think that people should not go to jail for smoking pot and that patients who can benefit from marijuana should be able to obtain it legally.

Yet President-elect Barack Obama has retreated from his support for marijuana decriminalization, and his position on medical marijuana remains ambiguous. His reticence on these issues suggests he may disappoint those who hope the Obama administration will move drug policy in a less punitive, more tolerant direction....
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Obama on Drugs
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Jacob Sullum | November 12, 2008


Last week voters in Massachusetts approved a ballot initiative that eliminates criminal penalties for possessing up to an ounce of marijuana, replacing them with a $100 civil fine. Michigan, meanwhile, became the 13th state to allow the medical use of cannabis.

As Bruce Mirken of the Marijuana Policy Project noted, the percentage of voters approving those initiatives (65 and 63, respectively) exceeded Barack Obama's share of the vote in each state. Furthermore, the results in Massachusetts and Michigan seem to reflect national opinion. For years polls have indicated that a large majority of Americans think that people should not go to jail for smoking pot and that patients who can benefit from marijuana should be able to obtain it legally.

Yet President-elect Barack Obama has retreated from his support for marijuana decriminalization, and his position on medical marijuana remains ambiguous. His reticence on these issues suggests he may disappoint those who hope the Obama administration will move drug policy in a less punitive, more tolerant direction....
Myself highly included. The war on drugs is an even stupider, less successful and more expensive boondoggle than the war on terror. It's where liberals and libretarians meet - along with small govt, no-nannying conservatives. Legalize it - and tax it. Particularly weed.

Of course, I live in the only state to vote to legalize all drugs with a doctor's prescription. Too bad federal law over-rules. I've had two doctors tell me weed would be better for my spinal arthritis (cramping) than the narcotic pain killers they can prescribe.
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Hell yea! I live in Mass.
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Obama on Drugs
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Jacob Sullum | November 12, 2008


Last week voters in Massachusetts approved a ballot initiative that eliminates criminal penalties for possessing up to an ounce of marijuana, replacing them with a $100 civil fine. Michigan, meanwhile, became the 13th state to allow the medical use of cannabis.

As Bruce Mirken of the Marijuana Policy Project noted, the percentage of voters approving those initiatives (65 and 63, respectively) exceeded Barack Obama's share of the vote in each state. Furthermore, the results in Massachusetts and Michigan seem to reflect national opinion. For years polls have indicated that a large majority of Americans think that people should not go to jail for smoking pot and that patients who can benefit from marijuana should be able to obtain it legally.

Yet President-elect Barack Obama has retreated from his support for marijuana decriminalization, and his position on medical marijuana remains ambiguous. His reticence on these issues suggests he may disappoint those who hope the Obama administration will move drug policy in a less punitive, more tolerant direction....
It shouldn't even be a $100 fine. It shouldn't be illegal at all. Alcohol is by far more dangerous than smoking a blunt and yet most people don't have a problem with alcohol present in just about every reach of society.

Obama has probably retreated from this position because he feels that it's too radical for mainstream America perhaps.
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You have my deepest sympathies. Women and children first.
I have a buddy of mine who just moved to Massachusetts to do a post doctoral at Harvard and he absolutely hates it there. Fortunately for him he'll only be there until around the summer when he completes his post doc and then gets an actual job, which will be back down here in the south.

I don't care for Massachusetts either. I have been to Boston several times and those are some of the most ugliest and unattractive people I have come across. It's like somebody went on a rampage through the city beating everyone with an ugly stick.
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Obama has probably retreated from this position because he feels that it's too radical for mainstream America perhaps.
Yea my guess.

The problem is that All championing legalization can do for a politician in the US is net them a loss in votes.

What they pick up from Liberty minded folks and pot heads is nothing compared to the votes they loose from scared middle America.
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Arizona. We legalized before CA, and we legalized anything a doctor wants to prescribe.
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I keep telling everyone that the War on Drugs is never going to end. Think about it, if you make drugs a non issue you have just removed part of the platform you run on. You have also removed hundreds of thousands of jobs from both government and civilian agencies.

Now, if you where to legalize drugs how would you go about controlling it? Most people support the idea of taxation on controlled substances. How are you going to tax a home grown meth lab? There is a big diffrence between brewing your own beer and cooking meth. If I make a batch of booze it does not blow up and kill people, it also does not force a hazmat team to come into the house and decontaminate it.

If you support the legilzation of pot and coke, shouldnt I be able to go down to the pharmacy and buy some Hydros or Oxys? Nah, nevermind that stuff, why not just buy 80% pure H? Meth, Coke and Heroin all have medicinal uses right? Meth and Coke and Crack for when your a little tired and H for depression?

I do not beilve that people are all of a sudden going to start doing Heroin or Meth just because it is legal but it is a little more complicated than just passing a law to allow it. And your damn right people are scared about drugs being legalized. We have enough problems with Methheads and Crackheads running around robbing people or worse for a few bucks just to buy another hit. But maybe those crimes will stop because competition will force street dealers to lower their prices right???
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