See, McCain wasn't conservative enough. Oh, I do hope these folks move further right and run Sarah Palin!! I suspect it will take a while to determine exactly what a conservative is again.


GOP senator: McCain put 'nail in our coffin'
Andrew McLemore
Published: Saturday November 15, 2008


South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint joined the growing ranks of Republicans turning on Sen. John McCain for betraying his conservative principles in the pursuit of the Oval Office, CNN reported.

McCain is largely responsible for the Republican Party straying from its own "brand," DeMint told a group of GOP officials in Myrtle Beach on Friday during a conference on the future of the party.

"We have to be honest, and there's a lot of blame to go around, but I have to mention George Bush, and I have to mention Ted Stevens, and I'm afraid I even have to mention John McCain," he said.

DeMint complained about many of McCain's policies while on the campaign trail.

"His proposal for amnesty for illegals. His support of global warming, cap-and-trade programs that will put another burden on our economy. And of course, his embrace of the bailout right before the election was probably the nail in our coffin this last election," DeMint said.

The head of the most conservative faction of Senate Republicans, DeMint said the sweeping Democratic gains in November's election vindicate his call for a return to Reaganite values, McClatchy Newspapers reported.

"One of our principles is that power corrupts, and you need to disperse it," DeMint said. "And if our own party allows ourselves to be destroyed by this idea, and are not willing to stand up, then we have to change everyone at the top."

Many Republicans have begun claiming the party's failure in the 2008 election was the result of watered-down conservatism and the way to rectify that failure is moving further to the right, according to Salon.com.

The Raw Story | GOP senator: McCain put 'nail in our coffin'

__________________
Happiness is always a by-product. It is probably a matter of temperament, and for anything I know it may be glandular. But it is not something that can be demanded from life, and if you are not happy you had better stop worrying about it and see what treasures you can pluck from your own brand of unhappiness.
- Robertson Davies

This is simply hilarious, Jojo! These Neanderthals must WANT to consign themselves to the dustbin of history for the next few generations if they really believe that balderdash.

The implosion of the radical right is BIG entertainment...

__________________

I don't know about that. Obama voted for the bailout against the people's wishes, too. Since O didn't care about what the vast majority of people wanted I don't see how he will be any better than what we've had in the oval office.

__________________


"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

He says the right things and seems to have enough of a brain to run a damn good campaign. It is November. I have hope. Just a smidgeon but it is hope!!!

Please.........don't....kill.......my. ..dream

Damn

__________________
Happiness is always a by-product. It is probably a matter of temperament, and for anything I know it may be glandular. But it is not something that can be demanded from life, and if you are not happy you had better stop worrying about it and see what treasures you can pluck from your own brand of unhappiness.
- Robertson Davies

I think DeMint is correct. When the Republicans have run on the principles of limited government they have won sweeping victories. Reagan in the 80s and the Republican Revolution of 94. When they strayed from those ideals and under Bush became exactly what they were running against they got their asses handed to them. McCain was a bad candidate in that he didn't fire up the base and a lot of Republicans, particularly conservatives simply didn't trust him. Obama ran on tax cuts for 95% of America for Pete's sake.

I have seen a lot of Obama supporters cheer on the idea of Sarah Palin running for President in 2012 under the ruse that she'll somehow be an easy defeat and lead to another four years of Obama. I would caution you to be careful what you wish for because you might get it and then regret it.

You assume that the Sarah Palin who was on the ticket this year will be the same woman on the ticket four years from now. By that time she'll have far more experience as Governor and on the national stage and plenty of time to brush up and improve on her weaknesses. I will also remind you that Palin improved McCain's numbers; she didn't detract from them. McCain was trailing Obama prior to the announcement of Palin as his VP. Once she was announced he shot up in the polls and for the two weeks following he lead Obama in many polls by a 5 to 10 point margin. It was the Lehman Bros crash that started tanking Wall Street and subsequently sent McCain's campaign into a downward spiral as the Democrats successfully convinced America it was all Bush's fault, which was not the truth.

Nobody knows what the state of America will be in 2012. We could be worse than we are today. The election of Barack Obama pretty much shows that just about anyone can get elected President in the right environment. If there has been no improvement or we are worse off in four years Americans may very well embrace Sarah Palin. I know plenty of people who at this time last year were hoping that Obama would get the nomination because they were afraid of Hillary and thought there was no way the country would elect someone as far to the left as Obama into the White House. Well, we saw the result of that logic.

__________________
Carolina Politics Online

Sam

McCain is not a fiscal conservative at all.

__________________
"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

That quote absolutely kills me, coming from people fanatically committed to the goal of concentrating as much power into as few hands as possible, and currently screaming bloody murder about "wealth distribution" and "socialism".

__________________
"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Ultimately, the GOP should move to the right, and embrace their hardcore fundies, and the Dems should move to the left. There might then be some greater distinction between the two, who have been merging in the centrist middle (where most of the voters are) for years.

__________________
"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

They run on small government but they never do it.

Not even the rights favourite demagogue Reagan. In fact he increased government indebtedness more then any president in history.

Republicans are not about small government they just lie and say they are but time and time again they spend more then democrats.

__________________
Walt Whitman
"I say that democracy can never prove itself beyond cavil, until it founds and luxuriantly grows its own forms of art, poems, schools, theology, displacing all that exists, or that has been produced anywhere in the past, under opposite influences."

Good point mwill.

Biggest difference I see is that the Dems may be "tax and spend", but the GOP is "don't tax, but still spend". From a budgetary perspective, I have to question who is the more fiscally responsible....

__________________
"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...