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Old 11-15-2008, 08:34 AM
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Although Obama wasn't my choice, I was hopeful when he won, simply because I didn't want a Bush clone in office with a fruitcake waiting in the wings. So I was disgusted when I read this. If he decides to go along with his advisers who advocate torture, he is just as low a life form as the present occupant in the White House and this sickens me. Only time will tell.

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Torture – Yes We Can?

By Justin Raimondo
Obama and the national security question: the sellout accelerates

Most politicians wait at least until they've been sworn in before they start breaking their campaign promises. In this sense, as in so many others, Barack Obama represents an entirely new phenomenon: the politician who preemptively reneges.

A recent Wall Street Journal piece describing the transition process as it relates to intelligence-gathering reveals we aren't going to see much change in this vitally important realm, the one in which the Bush administration truly made its blackest mark. This will "create tension within the Democratic party," we are told, apparently because even the worst party hacks will have a hard time going along with the revised Obama Doctrine on the issue of torture.

According to the Journal, Obama's advisors on intelligence matters are "centrists" in the Clinton mold and outright Republicans, who favor torture "with oversight." These, we are told, are the "pragmatists," likely candidates for positions in Obama's national security bureaucracy. "He's going to take a very centrist approach to these issues," avers Roger Cressey, who served as a counter-terrorism official under Clinton as well as Bush II.

It's a grotesque commentary on the moral health of the nation when advocacy of torture is considered "centrist." One shudders to imagine what it means to be right-of-center.

A big problem for the pro-torture faction of Team Obama, however, is their Leader's pronouncements on this subject during the campaign, when he came out unequivocally against "'enhanced interrogation techniques' like simulated drowning that qualify as torture through any careful measure of the law or appeal to human decency."

Human decency and government, however, are opposites in a dichotomy. Now that the Obama-ites have the power, all the pious rhetoric and self-righteousness of the Bush-hating Obama-loving "progressives" falls by the wayside, like so much confetti, to be swept up and trashed the morning after the election. It's an old story, but true – and yet with a rather grotesque twist that is all too indicative of the age we live in.

After all, we are talking about torture, here, the apotheosis of barbarism – and the signature issue of the sort of limousine liberals who just adore the Dear Leader, and wouldn't think of criticizing him in public, especially this early on. This betrayal is a real slap in the face to these people, and one wonders if it will sting enough to provoke a reaction.
Torture – Yes We Can?- by Justin Raimondo
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:25 PM
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Did you really think Messiah Obama was going to make significant changes in the nation's policies regarding intelligence gathering?
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