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If there were a humor section, this might belong there. Here we have the first Hitler comparison for Obama, and he is not yet in office. Amazing from a party that has done more to overturn constitutional rights in the last eight years than any group since the civil war.


Georgia Congressman Warns Of Obama Dictatorship

WASHINGTON — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may _ may not, I hope not _ but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure _ an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.

Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."

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Isn't it Bush that said a dictatorship would be much easier? Uhg. MOre this outdated,
cold war rhetoric.....
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Broun is an obvious whackmobile; I refuse to even clutter up my mind with that kind of hyper-ventilating rightwing rhetoric.

If we ignore fools like that, they inevitably go away. All they want is attention...
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If there were a humor section...
I'm not sure it's the humor section, more like the Matt Drudge Section. I believe what Obama proposed was a Homeland Security Corps "to help communities plan, prepare for and respond to emergencies." Which sounds more of an adjunct to FEMA then an American style SS.

Hey, but as we've seen before, when it comes to Washington DC talk, it don't look like the walk.

But this may have more do to with this:
Obama Dispatching Aides To Georgia Senate Race

Democratic officials confirm that Barack Obama is sending aides to help with the runoff senatorial campaign in Georgia, putting his post-election coattails to an immediate test.

Organizers who worked on behalf of the Illinois Democrat are heading to the Peach State to offer similar assistance to Jim Martin, the Democratic challenger who is facing a second-round contest against incumbent Saxby Chambliss after neither candidate received 50 percent of the initial vote.
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If there were a humor section, this might belong there. Here we have the first Hitler comparison for Obama, and he is not yet in office. Amazing from a party that has done more to overturn constitutional rights in the last eight years than any group since the civil war.
This isn't the first Hitler-Obama comparison by any means. Any comparison of that sort is completely ridiculous unless it refers to their charisma (charisma being the only attribute they share).

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WASHINGTON — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship.
Yes, because the Gestapo was very Marxist. Must be why they were charged with destroying and murdering most of the Communist Party in Germany. The Gestapo, moreover, wasn't "created" in the sense Obama means, but was rather an ad hoc organization of the different German police forces combined illegally by the Nazis. The Gestapo was just a centralized version of the police with extralegal authority that operated in secrecy and answered to the office of the Chancellor/President rather than the Reichstag.

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"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may _ may not, I hope not _ but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."
Once again, the Gestapo was a FASCIST organization, not a Marxist or socialist one. There was nothing "civilian" about the Gestapo, either.

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Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.
The real historical analogue to what Obama is proposing would be the Volksturm. Which was a civilian militia force created in Germany in the last years of the war to increase the Reich's manpower in the face of the overwhelming might of the Red Army...which doesn't seem all that unreasonable.

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"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."
And it's exactly what Churchill did in Britain, what the Bor Komorowski did in Poland, etc, etc.... Ever heard of Armja Krajowa? How about the British Home Army? Also, the Soviet Union had no civilian military force analagous to Obama's proposal. What this idiot is referring to is the NKVD, the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs. This was not at all a civilian organization, but rather another secret police force.


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Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado in which he called for expanding the nation's foreign service.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
I don't think that, when Obama says "just as powerful," he means just as militarily capable. I think he means just as good at responding to disasters or terrorist attacks, things of that nature. And, since the military can't be deployed on American soil it can't really do too much to defend us from terrorist attacks.

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The Obama transition team declined to comment on Broun's remarks. But spokesman Tommy Vietor said Obama was referring in the speech to a proposal for a civilian reserve corps that could handle postwar reconstruction efforts such as rebuilding infrastructure _ an idea endorsed by the Bush administration.
Why would they comment on his remarks? His remarks are nothing but idiocy.

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Broun said he believes Obama would move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national security force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.
Obviously wanting sensible regulations on guns is "moving to ban gun ownership."

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"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential of going down that road."
Well, since Obama obviously exploited our hatred of Jews and desire to conquer Europe to get elected, I can see how he would think that.
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Broun is a special kind of loony tune.

He was the one who believed that Pornography was harming American troops and sponsored the Miliraty Honor and Decency Act to combat the problem. After that, no one ought to be surprised about ANYTHING he says...


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Once again, the Gestapo was a FASCIST organization, not a Marxist or socialist one. There was nothing "civilian" about the Gestapo, either.
The Nazi party was socialist.
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The Nazi party was socialist.
Which obviously explains why they killed and imprisoned German Communists, and the entire membership of the Social Democrat Party. These people were either sent to death camps, summarily executed, or used for slave labor.
This also must explain the existence of corporations and capitalism in Germany during the National "Socialist" period.
Undoubtedly, however, you will stubbornly repeat that, since they were called National Socialists, they must have been Socialists. I will await your argument by the same logic that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was actually a union of republics, that the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea is actually a democratic republic, and that the People's Republic of China is actually a republic that serves its people.
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Which obviously explains why they killed and imprisoned German Communists, and the entire membership of the Social Democrat Party. These people were either sent to death camps, summarily executed, or used for slave labor.
This also must explain the existence of corporations and capitalism in Germany during the National "Socialist" period.
Undoubtedly, however, you will stubbornly repeat that, since they were called National Socialists, they must have been Socialists. I will await your argument by the same logic that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was actually a union of republics, that the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea is actually a democratic republic, and that the People's Republic of China is actually a republic that serves its people.
Nazi party stood for National Socialist German Workers' Party. I'm just giving you the facts.
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So, obviously, since they called themselves a socialist worker's party they were one. Refer to my other examples.
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