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Old 11-07-2008, 06:33 PM
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the neo conservatives are doing the criticism.
Palin is a real conservative.
I don't see it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:39 PM
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so, can you provide a source for your statements?

Bwahahahahaha! Can anyone else here see the irony of Truth for a Change asking for actualy sources, links, quotes?!!!

And how many real conservatives would run up a $150,000 bill for designer clothing?
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No, they want to shun the neo-conservatives to allow the paleo-conservatives to take back control of the party.
Actually, I would probably not categorize Gov. Palin as either a neoconservative or a paleo-conservative. She may contain some elements of each; but predominantly, she is a social conservative and right-wing populist, in my opinion.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:25 PM
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Palin doesn't know that africa is a continent, let alone what it means to be conservative. There were plenty of better candidates for VP to choose from. She she probably helped Obama more than McCain.
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News.
Reality.
Probably no proof - but I suspect lots of truth.
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Actually, I would probably not categorize Gov. Palin as either a neoconservative or a paleo-conservative. She may contain some elements of each; but predominantly, she is a social conservative and right-wing populist, in my opinion.
I don't see any paleo elements in her - in fact, she positively drips with disdain toward education and science. Ideas being elitist goes against paleo-conservatism, as does govt intrusion in private lives. The woman is a beauty queen bimbo - I truly hope that the extremists of the party decide to run her every 4 years because she is a hoot!
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You need to have an understanding of the faction of the GOP Palin represents, the fundamentalist Christian right wing. That is different that traditional conservatives and neo conservatives. Up until now, Bush Republicans could not get elected or re elected without fundamentalist Christians. So they have been shamelessly pandering to them.

That strategy did not work this time around. Sarah Palin was an embarassment to the party. For McCain to win, he needed to win over the independents and cross over voters, and Palin alienated them.

The GOP was also supported Palin initially as a woman, whom they wanted to declare was a feminist while forgetting feminists are overwhelmingly pro choice. They were going after the alienated Hillary supporters and it didn't work.

What Republicans need to focus on is that enlisting the support of fundamentalist Christians with Sarah on the ticket did not work. They need to go back to the drawing board for 2112.
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You need to have an understanding of the faction of the GOP Palin represents, the fundamentalist Christian right wing. That is different that traditional conservatives and neo conservatives. Up until now, Bush Republicans could not get elected or re elected without fundamentalist Christians. So they have been shamelessly pandering to them.

That strategy did not work this time around. Sarah Palin was an embarassment to the party. For McCain to win, he needed to win over the independents and cross over voters, and Palin alienated them.

The GOP was also supported Palin initially as a woman, whom they wanted to declare was a feminist while forgetting feminists are overwhelmingly pro choice. They were going after the alienated Hillary supporters and it didn't work.

What Republicans need to focus on is that enlisting the support of fundamentalist Christians with Sarah on the ticket did not work. They need to go back to the drawing board for 2112.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about.. just spewing hatred out of ignorance.

You should go back to your worship Obama.. the Messiah..

There is nothing that you said that has any basis in fact.
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about.. just spewing hatred out of ignorance.
Oh, the irony!
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You don't have a clue what you are talking about.. just spewing hatred out of ignorance.

You should go back to your worship Obama.. the Messiah..

There is nothing that you said that has any basis in fact.
Actually I thought Michael's analysis was spot on and very informative.

Perhaps you should think about what you post in future and leave out the personal attacks if you can't think of a substantive point to make.
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They want to prevent Palin from running nationally again... Republican party wants to shun the Conservatives from the party.

Good grief, she would get the snot stomped out of her. Please do run her again for President. You betcha, gotcha, winky-winky-wink (with $150,000 of new clothes, cosmetics and jewelry on her).
All the reasons you mention are PRECISELY why I would absolutely love it if those unclean Republicans would run her again. It would be a massacre...and it might just keep them out of power for the forseeable future. C'mon! Cab you think of ANYTHING the cheap-labor conservatives have done right in the last three decades??

She's very nearly everything that's wrong with the rabid right these days...
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