Am I allowed to quote you on that if we do see real change?

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~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I wonder if there is a real difference in total tax pressure between the Republicans and the Democrats, considering the much larger amount of militairy spending the Republicans seem to do. On top of that, the current tax plan isn't even responsible, because even up till now the American national debt is rising steadily.

Perhaps you are right on this. The way I see it, the Mexican model may also be a possibility as there is little or no middle class there. Just elites and poverty.

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- Mark Twain, a Biography

Grossing over $250,000 is a lot different than netting $250,000 . You know the difference there big guy? In addition, if you think that making $250,000(gross) requires NO work, then there is much you need to learn about working. Maybe a drug dealer making $250,000 a year is "not working at all", but that shouldn't be included in these stats. But if you find one of these $250,000 a year businesses that doesn't require work, well just go ahead and sign me up!

BTW..."This is stupid" is not really an answer.

Are those the accurate numbers? If so, attribute it to free enterprise and hard work. Don't forget that these wealthy Americans give back to the country in the form of jobs created by the wealth.

In other words, a girl get's knocked up and the fix all solution is an abortion? Is life that disposable for your generation?

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How about parents teaching some better values and morals to the kids as well as accountability for their actions. My analogy of the day: Most people will limit the amount of tissue they stick in the toilet, rather than expecting roto-rooter to come around everytime they clog it up.

Condescending BS there Chosen 1.

We do not have trickle down economics, we have trickle OUT economics. Billionaires are moving offices and factories overseas so they do not have to pay taxes on their profits. Then they bank those profits offshore. Added together with outsourcing jobs, this represents TRICKLE OUT economics.

All of the above supports the infrastructure of foreign countries, not the American infrastructure that was the basis for these sociopathic slobs to get rich. In short, economic treason.

Those jobs and that money goes to support the infrastructure of other countries where they can set up sweat shops a less than minimum wage with no workmans compensation, medical coverage or everything else. The billionaire CEO and multi millionaire executive staff members here are driving around in stretch limos, many living off of bail out money while families are defaulting on mortgages and going homeless.

And that is so WRONG that I don't understand how anyone can believe that's OK.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

People who make significantly over $250,000 a year are generally making their money from investment returns (capital gains). And even if they weren't, they aren't going to die because their taxes were increased by 3% (as illustrated below).
"Gross" refers to corporate income, the tax rate on which is 35%. Obama isn't changing that 35% rate, but he is getting rid of it completely for businesses making less than $250,000.

"This is stupid" is a perfectly good answer. It's moronic (equally good answer). Obama's tax plan refers to individual incomes.
According to The Tax Foundation (The Tax Foundation - Candidates 2008), Obama's plan will maintain the 10% tax on incomes less than $8,025 (married $16,050), maintain the 15% tax on incomes of $8,025-$32,550 (married $16,050-$65,100), maintain the 25% tax on incomes of $32,550 - $78,850 (married $65,100 - $131,450), and maintain the 28% tax on incomes of $78,850 - $164,550 (married $131,450 - $200,300). Now, that's obviously not a perfect system. I think, if I had to keep the same brackets, I would say 1%, 5%, 10%, 20%, and 30%. Here's where Obama's plan differs from the current rates: he would allow the rate of 33% on incomes of $164,550 - $357,700 (married $200,300 - $357,700) to expire to 36%, and rate on incomes of over $357,000 (single and married) would expire from 35% to 39.6%.

So, in all, this is a total increase of 3% for the second-highest income bracket, and 4.9% for the highest bracket.

And all this fuss over that? You really are a laugh.

Actually I would attribute it to manipulation of money and exploitation of workers, but of course those are the same thing. Actually, this top 1%--just like most other major corporations--are giving the jobs to other countries so they don't have to follow American labor laws. They aren't giving back ****, and even if they were, I could care less. I would like to see an additional few brackets created:
Current bracket of $357,000+ becomes $357,000-$500,000. Rate stays the same.
Next bracket, $500,000-$1 million. Tax rate, 40%.
$1-$3 million: tax rate 45%.
$3-25 million: tax rate, 48%.
$25-100 million: tax rate, 50%.
$100 million-$1 billion: tax rate, 60%.
$1 billion and over: tax rate, 75%.


And who are you to say she's not allowed to do it? What about her life?

Yes, and when you have stuck a bunch of toilet paper in the toilet for whatever reason, you should obviously choose to live with the consequences of your "decision" and never call the roto-rooter, ever.
Don't act like it's "my generation" that's immature and is cheapening life. You're cheapening life by making it into something that can be ruined completely by a single bad choice. If the means exists to fix the consequences of your wrong decision, you don't sit in the corner and "live with the consequences." You try to make amends and fix your mistakes. By your logic there wouldn't be erasers on pencils. After all, if you don't want to have a paper with a bunch of spelling mistakes on it, don't make them in the first place, right?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I find it hilarious how people get all emotionally uptight about aborting mindless fetuses, but they often think nothing of slaughtering much more self-aware non-human animals because they "taste good." The doublethink is stupendous. Mindless machine = precious life, but non-human animals = do whatever you feel like to it if it makes you happy.

I really don't give a crap about women aborting early fetuses. It's nothing more than a mindless biomachine at that point. it can't think, it can't feel. It's like getting all emotional about your laptop. I find it worse to kill a chimp.

If you think that makes life cheap, whatever. I think Americans have cheapened "life" given the vast overeating of meat from animals that suffer far, far worse than your precious little meatpuppet fetus.

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Hell, it isn't even about that, although that's worth noting. They act like the consequences of one's bad decision should be "lived with" and you shouldn't do everything you can to try and nullify those consequences. Pencils have erasers for a reason. People make mistakes. Acting like the mistake didn't happen and refusing to do anything about the consequences represents a failure to take responsibility. Acting as quickly as possible to fix your mistake is taking responsibility.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.