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Old 11-03-2008, 04:36 PM
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Out of curiosity, how in the world can today's unclean Republicans NOT be the party of Ronald Ray-Gun? Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Eliot Abrams, John Negroponte, Paul Wolfowitz all served in his administration...and they're just the ones I can think of off the top of my head! You're just honked off that the Bush Crime Syndicate pulled the covers off conservative ideology and revealed it for the fraud and the callous Grand Theft which it actually is.
Because there are 'wings' of the party....just like in the Dem Party. The 'paleo / libertarians' have been by in large marginalized. The neo's control the party and are by in large nothing but mafioso.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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Because there are 'wings' of the party....just like in the Dem Party. The 'paleo / libertarians' have been by in large marginalized. The neo's control the party and are by in large nothing but mafioso.
This is a pointless engagement in unnecessary complex-ification of a fairly obvious and easily grasped phenomenon. If what you say were true, there would be more obvious dissention and less lock-step ratification of toxic, radical policies. There are NO moderate Republicans when votes are cast.

I think you're badly misguided; try cutting it with Occam's Razor...
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:10 AM
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This is a pointless engagement in unnecessary complex-ification of a fairly obvious and easily grasped phenomenon. If what you say were true, there would be more obvious dissention and less lock-step ratification of toxic, radical policies. There are NO moderate Republicans when votes are cast.
Sure there are. I know quite a few 'goldwater' republicans. They are hissed and booed at at the GOP county executive meetings. I have seen it with my own eyes.

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I hate to burst your bubble but I have worked in politics for decades. I am not a webwarrior. You're assertian that I am 'misguided' is laughable.

The promotion of 'toxic radical policies' are not exclusive to Republicans. However, the GOP certainly has more than their fair share of hateful ideologues. What you see in the GOP leadership today is a coalition between the fundie christo-fascists and the neocon war mongers. The paleocon, constitutionalist and libertarian factions have been swept aside.

If you wish to watch their internal war play out, I would suggest that you keep an eye on Debra Medina's lawsuit in Texas. The neocons and christo-fascists cannot stay in power without violating the law.

Debra Medinas speech for Vice Chair of Texas GOP | BREAK THE MATRIX
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If you wish to watch their internal war play out, I would suggest that you keep an eye on Debra Medina's lawsuit in Texas. The neocons and christo-fascists cannot stay in power without violating the law.

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Great speech. Good for her. Please keep us posted.
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Great speech. Good for her. Please keep us posted.
Had they obeyed the law, Ron Paul would have won Texas.
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Had they obeyed the law, Ron Paul would have won Texas.
Wow! Is Medina an RP fan?
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Wow! Is Medina an RP fan?
Absolutely.

She belongs in the constiututional wing of the GOP and is a member of the RLC (republican liberty caucus).

Had the actually elected a convention chair, the hate-filled platform and neocon / christo-fascists leadership would have been purged.

There are some associated links in that article that you should watch. Her case will end up in the Supreme Court....but will likely be dismissed by the same criminals who threw out our case.

They will openly violate the law to protect their power. I suspect that it will eventually lead to violent confrontation between these factions before it is all over with.
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It will take decades for the U.S. middle class to recover from the sell off of its assets to those who owe no allegence to anyone but themselves.

Our reputation as well as our way of life has been ruined and will never be the same again.

Our Constitution has been gutted, leaving few of any limitaions on government power.

All we are left with at this point is the idea of what America once was, packaged and sold back to us
in some form of a marketing image. Together with the unyeilding use of fear tactics have left most Americans to behave in ways that are counter to their best interest. Perhaps all that those of who us can think critically have left is hope and that is all we have.
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It will take decades for the U.S. middle class to recover from the sell off of its assets to those who owe no allegence to anyone but themselves.

Our reputation as well as our way of life has been ruined and will never be the same again.

Our Constitution has been gutted, leaving few of any limitaions on government power.

All we are left with at this point is the idea of what America once was, packaged and sold back to us
in some form of a marketing image. Together with the unyeilding use of fear tactics have left most Americans to behave in ways that are counter to their best interest. Perhaps all that those of who us can think critically have left is hope and that is all we have.
All of the above is true and documented...except for that last sentence...



...and I think we've now got a secret weapon in that department!
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Simply because it isn't 'documented' makes it no less factual.
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