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Old 10-21-2008, 06:14 AM
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These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was ... the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was ... the Republican Party.

Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

Now let's follow the money ... right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an "adviser" to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama's people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn't listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth — even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

Because that's what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don't like the probable consequences. That's what honesty means . That's how trust is earned.

Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored the story of John Edwards's own adultery for many months.

So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

That's where you are right now.

It's not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation's prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama's door.

You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe — and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not journalists by any standard.

You're just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it's time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a news paper in our city.

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Old 10-21-2008, 07:29 AM
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Honesty and common sense, Finny, would be recognizing that over time Republicans and Democrats alike created this mess.

As for the press--and no doubt I'm about to state the obvious--bias and spin became inherent in the picture when 24-hour news/entertainment cycles became the norm in the States. It's wisest, I think, to get news from several different sources with varying slants to best form one's own opinions on what might be happening or not. Unfortunately, though, most Americans don't follow the political process as we here do, so when election times draw near, most tend to stick with their usual source for news which is typically that source most in tune with their own points of view.

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Partisan blinders again. Everything is the fault of the Dems....The Republicans are the right hand of god....blah blah blah.
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Honesty and common sense, Finny, would be recognizing that over time Republicans and Democrats alike created this mess.

As for the press--and no doubt I'm about to state the obvious--bias and spin became inherent in the picture when 24-hour news/entertainment cycles became the norm in the States. It's wisest, I think, to get news from several different sources with varying slants to best form one's own opinions on what might be happening or not. Unfortunately, though, most Americans don't follow the political process as we here do, so when election times draw near, most tend to stick with their usual source for news which is typically that source most in tune with their own points of view.

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Actually, Cindy, you should go back even further than the 24-hour news cycle. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries there was this phenomenon called "yellow journalism":

Yellow journalism, in short, is biased opinion masquerading as objective fact. Moreover, the practice of yellow journalism involved sensationalism, distorted stories, and misleading images for the sole purpose of boosting newspaper sales and exciting public opinion. It was particularly indicative of two papers founded and popularized in the late 19th century- The New York World, run by Joseph Pulitzer and The New York Journal, run by William Randolph Hearst.

It all started, some historians believe, with the onset of the rapid industrialization that was happening all around the world. The Industrial Revolution eventually affected the newspaper industry, allowing newspapers access to machines that could easily print thousands of papers in a single night. This is believed to have brought into play one of the most important characteristics of yellow journalism - the endless drive for circulation. And unfortunately, the publisher's greed was very often put before ethics.

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One of the greatest examples of yellow journalism is how it fueled the fire of American public opinion toward going to war against Spain in 1898 with its erroneous reports about the USS Maine.
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LOL. And here I thought Finny was better than lame partisan attacks.
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Partisan blinders again. Everything is the fault of the Dems....The Republicans are the right hand of god....blah blah blah.
Somehow I suspect that there are those on both sides who managed a screw up as big as this one - it took a lot of years and a lot of bribes.
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new avatar.. stepped up attacks on the dems. Seems finny may have gone redstate on us.


This problem is not as you call it the entire fault of the DEMS. I admit my party has some answering to do. But the fact remains the Democratic party did not invent ARM's They opened the doors but the flood that came trough was venture capitalist and GOP pals.
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Partisan blinders again. Everything is the fault of the Dems....The Republicans are the right hand of god....blah blah blah.

Nah.. BoneDaddy read the whole piece.. I put a link.. you will find its about those in the Media who love to blame anyone but Democrats, and is calling the media on it.

Ironically.. its a journo doing it.

I put this up to show a few here that even some in their parties have morals and standards.
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LOL. And here I thought Finny was better than lame partisan attacks.
In no way is this a partisan attack, no more then your attacks against "Capitalism" as unfounded as they are.
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I'm trying to make note of this on every topic.

Democrats & Republicans ARE ALWAYS the problem.
They argue about petty differences but support the same platform of large federal government with focus on federal funding and executive power. Let's go ahead and crown the next guy and make it authentic.

Republicans regulate the economy but not in favor of poor people. Democrats call it deregulation so now allowing the market to act on its own is evil. Does the federal government make policies to control the weather?? No? It's about as predictable and controllable as a capitalist market.

We can't regulate the market. There is no way to do it. It will regulate itself, like it always does. THE HOUSING BUBBLE WAS THE NATURAL MARKET REGULATION.

It's simple science... cause and effect.

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Housing Bubble:

Cause; Decades of federal intervention iniatives leaning federal favor towards banks who offered loans that were regularly not affordable by any customer due to their sub-prime rates, that invest in credit assets in a higher volume as opposed to liquid assets in a smaller volume.

Effect; those sub-prime rates forced loaner and lender alike to invest more in credited assets. Our entire country top to bottom became credit-sucking debtors.

The government got too involved. It gave too many people, too much money, to buy too many things.
We've been spiraling for it since we left the gold standard.

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