We need to get rid of these machines and return to the accountability of paper ballots. I ask for a paper ballot each time I go to the polls and am always told they aren't available. Why aren't they? Because the powers that be want to control the outcome of elections and take away our right to choose.

This is the kind of voting fraud that should be investigated but is ignored. The people aren't that stupid. If a person chooses a Democrat but the machine puts a check next to the Republican instead, come ON, don't blame the voter.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

I like the voting machines we have here in New York where you just go in, close the curtain, flip some little levers, and pull the big lever. While I don't doubt there have been problems with this archaic technology, I've never heard of any.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

This isn't 'voting' fraud.....it is 'election' fraud.

The difference is that 'election' fraud is carried out by the government.

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

I stand corrected.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

All of WV hasn't gone over to the electronic voting machine yet. I live in the Capitol city, and during the primaries, we were still using paper ballots. Over all I prefer the paper ballots, too, and even then I don't trust that the tabulations are necessarily accurate and fair.

Cindy

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What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea. --Gandhi

The only problem with the lever machines is them breaking down and lack of parts because they are so old. I worked the polls on election day in NY many times, so I know.

Never pay $4000 for what a $.39 pencil can accomplish.

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

Voter fraud (or election fraud, or whatever the correct term may be) should be confronted, and stopped in its tracks. I continue to have serious concerns about ACORN's apparent attempt to steal the election for the Democrats by registering ineligible people (or the same person, multiple times) in many swing states. However, it is just as bad when a vote for the Democratic candidate is magically transmuted into a vote for the GOP candidate.

Let us all agree to investigate all such irregularities (which is probably far too kind of a word for it), whenever they occur, and regardless of which candidate they benefit in some cynical way.

It doesn't matter pjohns. Whenever government decides to place candidates on the ballot regardless of the law, the rule of law is no more. This (the election) is all a dog and pony show for mass consumption by the sheeple.

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

Voting machine companies (Diebold, for example) have a history of conflicts of interest.

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No party holds the privilege of dictating to me how I shall vote. If loyalty to party is a form of patriotism, I am no patriot. If there is any valuable difference between a monarchist and an American, it lies in the theory that the American can decide for himself what is patriotic and what isn't. I claim that difference. I am the only person in the sixty millions that is privileged to dictate my patriotism.
- Mark Twain, a Biography