I hereby claim that Obama will be no better than Bush. Democrats and Republicans these days are two sides of the same big government nanny stater interventionist coin. Obama's policies will be as bad for the Republic as Bush's - perhaps even worse - and so will McCain's.

The Patriot Act will not be repealed. FISA will not be repealed. The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Secretary will continue to have the unprecedented powers recently given to them. The United States will continue to interfere in the internal affairs of other nations. The list goes on...

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Unfortunately, I think you're right. There will be no changes without a revolution and the people aren't quite there yet - but it's getting closer.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

You're free to be stupid in that way but before you do that maybe you should actually look at what it is the founding fathers gave us in creating our Republic. Maybe you should look at why they rejected democracy in favor of a republic (the United States is not, and has never been, a democracy). Maybe you should consider what it meant for 13 newly-independent nations to form a union intended to be of mutual benefit.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

I have to agree. Good point.

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No party holds the privilege of dictating to me how I shall vote. If loyalty to party is a form of patriotism, I am no patriot. If there is any valuable difference between a monarchist and an American, it lies in the theory that the American can decide for himself what is patriotic and what isn't. I claim that difference. I am the only person in the sixty millions that is privileged to dictate my patriotism.
- Mark Twain, a Biography

simple crap.

The us has always been a "Democratic Republic" Because we elect our representatives. And they are controlled by public opinion.

pure democracy cannot be a government. It would be to slow and unwieldy.

Over 200 years ago people who still thought it was ok to own humans were not right about everything. And I am getting Tired of the thought that they were the wisest among us.

WE have evolved. And an entire group of people still think that we should not have evolved instead of playing a positive role in that evolution.

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Not all believed it was 'ok'

Have we? I still see greed, avarice and sloth. I see a dumbed down population. I would contend that we are devolving. We certainly aren't progessing.

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

The "Republicans and Democrats are the same" stick is nothing but a meme picked up by ideologues. It sounds good, but is false, but still gets propagated into new people's heads.

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Like the "People's Democratic Republic of (insert name here)?" Diane Finestein, leftist Democrat Senator from the land of the Californicators, said that 85,000 out of about 95,000 calls and e-mails she received were against the bailout bill and yet SHE STILL VOTED FOR IT! How the hell is that being controlled by public opinion??? Further, the founding fathers never intended the Congress to be "controlled by public opinion."

Then stop being so damned stupid about referring to the United States as being "democratic." Besides, today's federal government is pretty damned slow and unwieldy except when it wants to scam the people.

Many did, many didn't. There are some today who think it's okay to own humans, though the nature of the ownership has changed somewhat.

You are so full of crap on that one! Tell me how a big government interventionist nanny state is an improvement over a constitutional republic.

But we haven't "evolved." I agree with BoneDaddy that we have devolved.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

It is not false. Both organizations are bought and paid for by the corporate elite. You are simply playing into their hands. Propaganda and programming in government schools insures this paradigm to continue. You're a wage slave none the less.

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

Well, the Democrats and Republicans are at least two sides of the same coin.

Techno is one of those millions of American sheeple who stupidly think they absolutely must vote for either a Democrat or a Republican. They make idiotic remarks about how they won't vote for third parties because those parties have no chance of winning since no one will vote for them (self-fulfilling prophecy) and then criticize those who wisely and correctly state that third parties have as much chance of winning as the voters give them, and that third parties become viable when people vote for them. Techno and the rest of the sheeple mindlessly accept the lies of the media, the Democrats, the Republicans, and the government indoctrination centers (public schools) that there are only two parties, that we have a two-party system, that voting third party (hence contradicting the notion of only two parties) is throwing away your vote or stealing a vote from a Democrat or Republican (as if to say that the Democrat or Republican is somehow entitled to that vote), etc.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."