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Old 10-15-2008, 11:15 AM
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I'll be voting my conscience. I'd rather vote for the best person for the job than vote for a neocon in LP clothing.
As long as they have an elector, your vote will count. If they do not, your vote won't count. Remember, you are voting for electors, not the president.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:40 PM
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People like Technocratic Utilitarian and his ilk have this idiotic view that somehow Democrats and Republicans are actually entitled to everyone's vote and that to not vote for a Democrat or a Republican is to steal a vote from them.
It must have taken you a while to construct that strawman. I said no such thing. Stop lying. What I actually said was quite logical. In some situations, depending on the electoral landscape in a state, if one votes for a party that has some similarities to the Democrats, and one would otherwise be voting for the Democrats, it takes votes away from the Democrats. If in the absence of enough who also do this to the Republicans, it can put them ahead and therefore help put that party ahead just enough to win, thus actually making things worse for everyone, given Republicans are demonstrably worse than Democrats.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:27 PM
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It must have taken you a while to construct that strawman. I said no such thing. Stop lying.
Actually you're the one who is lying because you know damned well I never claimed that you SAID anything.

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What I actually said was quite logical.
Not even remotely logical.

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In some situations, depending on the electoral landscape in a state, if one votes for a party that has some similarities to the Democrats, and one would otherwise be voting for the Democrats, it takes votes away from the Democrats. If in the absence of enough who also do this to the Republicans, it can put them ahead and therefore help put that party ahead just enough to win, thus actually making things worse for everyone, given Republicans are demonstrably worse than Democrats.
There you go again assuming that Democrats and Republicans are even entitled to those votes! Why the hell can't people vote for these other parties (for example, the American Socialist Party) because they believe in what those parties' candidates stand for? Why the hell does it always have to be about Democrats and Republicans?
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:43 PM
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Why the hell does it always have to be about Democrats and Republicans?
Because that is how he was programmed.
Propaganda in the school system works.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:07 PM
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Still lying chan-chan? Bad form. You're nose is long at this point. But no one's buying it but you.
Show me where I lied.
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